Kathleen Kane is effectively being suspended. Not just as a lawyer but as Attorney General as well.
The disciplinary board in charge of Pennsylvania’s lawyers has notified Kane that they are seeking an emergency suspension of her law license, Angela Couloumbis of the Inquirer is reporting.
Couloumbis and McCoy note that under Rule 208, the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania can recommend the suspension of an attorney who they feel “is causing immediate and substantial public or private harm,” or has engaged in “egregious conduct.”
The action goes to the PA Supreme Court and the AG has ten days to respond.
If Kane has her law license put on hold, she can’t act as the commonwealth’s chief prosecutor.
Article IV, Section 5 of the Pennsylvania Constitution states that: “No person shall be eligible to the office of Attorney General except a member of the bar of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania.”
Therefore, the suspension of her law license would basically be a suspension from the job as Attorney General.
According to Brad Bumsted of the Tribune-Review, First Deputy Bruce Beemer would become Acting Attorney General.
Kane and Beemer’s relationship is severely strained. Beemer testified against her in the grand jury investigation and last May Kane transferred control over personnel matters from Beemer to her controversial Chief of Staff Jonathan Duecker.
Kane was charged with eight counts earlier this month. She has consistently stated in the past that she will not resign.
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Disappointed actually. I thought you might be someone intelligent worth debating like David. He’d answer the difficult questions put to you. Turns out you’re just a homeschooler on the commune.
Hey Unsanctioned R – You mad bro?
Tide has turned? Nothing new mitigates her crimes. Where have you been? You only see corruption now? That’s the funny thing about libs. Haven’t heard a word from you until now. Hypocrites.
Who’s defending this email behavior? You’re a joke.
It’s fun to watch all the Repervlicans cry like little babies now that the tide has finally turned and folks have figured out what they have been up to.
Hey Frank Fina – How friggin racist are you? Get it?!?
One way to conceptualize DD’s partisanship is to note how his hero, BHO, failed to investigate leaks from his upper-echelon that defamed BB; “this is the way politics is practiced” was the rationalization promulgated by the Dems [presaging BB’s housecall this past March], and DD merely channels that [heinous] attitude.
David, you are incredible. Even she didn’t make that lie in her own defense.
Unsanctioned R-
The emails are a timestamped and undisputed record of a pattern of porn.
The testimony against Kane doesn’t take into account intervening conversations that may have resolved the disagreements captured in the emails. I’ve got emails from my boss saying the program will perform specific functions, that I never implemented due to subsequent conversations.
The email record between Kane and her staff is an incomplete record of an ongoing debate in the office. Whereas, the porn emails stand alone as proof of improper behavior.
Whether you think perjury is a crime or not, the corroborating emails of the witnesses against her are damning evidence of a crime. I don’t know if the same can be said of the porn emails.
DD – You are making too many assumptions.
We know several things FOR SURE. Stick to those. The rest will come out later.
Unsanctioned R-
I don’t consider “perjury” to be a serious crime (or a crime at all when declaring your own innocence) unless you are falsely accusing someone else of a crime. So, you aren’t going to convince me that someone stealing a car has any right to prosecute someone for stealing a hubcab and denying it.
It’s not a question of two wrongs making a right. It’s a question of the prosecutors/judges acting wrongly, not having the moral authority to prosecute Kane in the first place.
If we accept the assumption that Fina leaked the sting case, and that he got Carpenter to go after Kane for the Montdesire leak, then there is serious conflict of interest, especially after Carpenter’s own grand jury leaked and nothing was done about it.
I also believe that two “D”s do not make a right.
David, I mean the witnesses who she hired and sent her emails. I wish you weren’t so partisan in who you convict and who deserves a defense.
So the Attorney General threatens and follows through with illegal leaks and she’s allowed to lie after swearing not to in order to cover up her crime? Because why, her accusers are dirty??
I told you haha, some think that two wrongs do make a right.
Unsanctioned R-
My point is that criminals should not be allowed to prosecute you, and any resulting actions you take to defend yourself in a kangaroo court (including lying) should not count against you.
The original leak did not warrant that Carpenter convening a grand jury in the first place. Every bad decision he made and question he allowed without proper foundation should be disallowed REGARDLESS of the answers Kane gave.
Kangaroo Court:
“A kangaroo court is a judicial tribunal or assembly that blatantly disregards recognized standards of law or justice ..mock court in which the principles of law and justice are disregarded or perverted. The term may also apply to a court held by a legitimate judicial authority who intentionally disregards the court’s legal or ethical obligations. A kangaroo court is often held to give the appearance of a fair and just trial, even though the verdict has in reality already been decided before the trial has begun.”
David, you’re asking a legal question, but I think you suspect the same answer I have, which is, “No.” Regardless, there are no excuses for her choices.
Tell it to Pat, or David, haha. They seem to think bad behavior excuses bad behavior.
She’s a criminal and you cannot explain away the evidences against her.
Unsanctioned R-
“that decision was passed to the press”… by whom? Does that count as a leak? It’s pre-grand-jury, but there was an investigation. Should the targets have been entitled to anonymity if there wasn’t even a grand jury decision?
I find us in rare agreement that the board should wait until after her trial. There is no rush.
Check the Record-
“you can trust the other witnesses”?? Do you mean the witnesses that:
1) Were not cross-examined
2) that had an axe to grind
3) that played CYA
4) that got immunity for telling the story the DA and special prosecutor wanted told
Those witnesses?
Do you also think that grand jury rooms should be built on-site at the prisons to save a few steps? (like an actual trial)
LOL at you fools. “Two wrongs don’t make a right” … DUH ….
Two perverts don’t make a right either. Two racists don’t make a right. Two pigs don’t make a right either.
AG Kane may be a big fat wrong. We’ll see. She has a trial coming up.
But DA Seth Williams has two big fat pervert racist pigs on his payroll. That’s for sure. Just look at their e-mails.
Pat, you can trust the other witnesses then, and the email evidence.
Pat, you agree that all the employees who sent emails like this should be fired, no?
Pat, I think the timeline was that Kane passed on the sting, that decision was passed to the press, then the retaliatory GJ leak in question, then the threat to Fina/Costanzo, which got the emails sealed. Her hands are filthy. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Check – I don’t care if the Pope next month suggested she should “go.” She very well may be incompetent … and dishonest … I don’t know.
Part of the reason I don’t know is that Fina and Costanzo have been the people attacking her. No one should trust them at this point.
They really do seem to be “racist pigs” (as another commenter typed. And there is no getting around the misogyny either. They lack judgment … even if they were right about Kathleen Kane.
Pat, I suggest that you search this page for “stupid” and find that I never said that.
Kane blackmails people and then lies about it in court. How can a person like that run the AG’s office?
Rendell thinks she should go. Wolf thinks she should go. Are they co-conspirators?
HaHaHa-
Here’s the cartoon we should be passing around:
Seth Williams carrying a fried-chicken bucket labeled “Frank Fina” (with Franky’s bald head peeking out) and Seth trying to walk past a couple of reporters.
Check – it would seem you are trying to obfuscate by calling the e-mails “stupid.” They are much worse … and you know it.
They are indicative of an attitude that is completely unacceptable. They are proof that their judgment is skewed. And they are also tied into the subject of this article … as it does really seem that Kane’s discovery of those e-mails is what has motivated the attack-squad what has been going after Kane.
To obfuscate would be making comments about Fina when this article is about Kane and her crimes. Try the other one.
Josh – you are a shill. And you are trying to obfuscate. I don’t blame you when this is what you are dealing with:
FROM PHILLY MAG — Fina’s group of faux motivational posters included an image of a white man, carrying a bucket of fried chicken, being accosted by two deranged-looking black men. The caption – “Bravery at its finest.”
Fina is not a moron. In fact, you shills have been telling us how smart he is for months. The truth is he is a racist pervert. He has no business carrying a badge in Philadelphia.
Seth Williams is committing career suicide if continues to employ these creeps. Did you hear about the picture showing a little boy looking down the underpants of a little girl? Who took that picture? Who forced those kids to pose in those positions? THAT DISGUSTS ME.
Hmmm. We have the highest officer in the state violating her oath, committing perjury, and a bunch of other most serious criminal offenses versus some old guys who think they’re living in the 1970s, sending moronic emails. Yes, the top cop committing those crimes is monstrous because it erodes everything else holding our society together. No law = no justice = no society. No, the guys sending the stupid emails aren’t supposed to get the electric chair, although the frothing at the mouth rabid PC pack would do it. Your values are upside down, guys. Or you put partisan politics first, which disgusts me.
Chris Martinez – word is thatI the KKK is in need of a Grand Wizard in Juanita County … Get your resume in before Fina or Costanzo gets hired.
somebuddy is use ing my name and postin stuff here using my name but I is the real chris, yes.
DD – you know when you are beaten when you are reduced to calling the alleged offenses of your political enemy “gigantic and monstrous.” AG Kane’s alleged behavior is being handled the same way Kenneth Starr handled Bill Clinton’s. Focus on the periphery. Manipulate the Press. In this case, they also commit tens of their own felonies along the way – by leaking GJ material to the Inquirer.
It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.
Reasonable observers have seen through the shenanigans that Frank Fina and his crew are trying to pull. We have also now seen his soul … and it is obvious why he didn’t want us to. Shame on him. And shame on Seth Williams if he keeps paying him taxpayer dollars.
LMAO @ you, Shill-Josh. If you have not read about the e-mails … then you should …. or else you are just sharing your worthless, ill-informed opinion with others.
Here’s a sample of “the e-mails” from Philly Mag:
The very first image in the binder — part of an email from Fina to two colleagues — depicts a topless woman on her back, giving oral sex to a man in a dress shirt. It is captioned in the style of a motivational poster: “WILLINGNESS: Bend over backwards to do an exceptional job.”
The next image? Another woman. Also giving oral sex. “DEVOTION: Making your boss happy is your only job.”
It’s not all blowjobs. The next image in the set featured anal sex.
The stuff that wasn’t pornographic was still demeaning to women and minorities. Fina’s group of faux motivational posters included an image of a white man, carrying a bucket of fried chicken, being accosted by two deranged-looking black men. The caption? “Bravery at its finest.”
One of the few pictures of a clothed female showed a woman wearing a T-shirt emblazoned: “WIFE: Washing, Ironing, F**ing, Etc.” (The letters in the explicit word were blurred in the photo) That caption? “PLACE: Know it!”
Josh-
“gigantic and monstrous”? Really? Are there bodies buried in NJ swampland?
How about judges and prosecutors abusing the process by pursuing these ridiculous petty charges, while their own case 100 times the leakage, that they actively ignored.
Man. Some of the comments here are nuts. I haven’t seen the emails. But…Sending sophomoric and or sexist and or racist emails doesn’t make someone a dangerous pervert or KKK Democrat. It sounds like older men living in a non-PC past when these kinds of stupid jokes were considered funny. They’re not funny. They’re stupid. So, hold the senders accountable by saying “Hey, stupid, this ain’t funny. Don’t do it again,” and move on. What bugs me is that good people like Chris Abruzzo, who merely received the emails and didn’t open or forward them, have had their careers derailed by this hyperventilating overreaction to stupid stuff. That’s the cost of political correctness. Kane’s crimes are actual crimes, and they are gigantic and monstrous. She’s a criminal, and she can tell us all about those bad men while she writes her short memoir from behind bars.
According to Nick Field, National Organization of Women now calling for Seth Williams to fire Fina and Costanzo.
Can’t believe it is taking him this long. Females that work in that Office … Blacks that work in that Office … must be up in arms.
Here’s a little peek inside Fina’s mind:
His e-mails had a photo of a tee shirt that said “WIFE: Washing, Ironing, F**ing, Etc.”
That caption: “PLACE: Know it!”
[hey Chris, you lost your typographical-accent!]
i say token black all the time.
Chris-
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what the black commentators on FoxNews are. The other term would be “my one black friend”, but it’s the same thing.
On South Park, they actually have an African American character with first name Token, last name Black.
Let’s see all the emails and find out how many of the creeps are still in the union.
“token black”
That’s even too racist for me.
Several questions re: Fina & Costanzo’s status in the Philly DA’s office:
— Assuming they have employment contracts (they’re lawyers after all), do those contracts override “at will” employment?
— Again, assuming there are contracts, are those contracts a matter of public record? I’d be interested in see what in them.
— MEDIA – has anyone filed an FOI to get background on the employment of Fina and Costanzo?
And Seth — the clock is still ticking. Nearly a week has gone by and these two proven sleazeballs are still collecting public paychecks. Why are they still there?
HaHaHa-
“What boggles my mind is how a Black man can tolerate the kind of stuff Fina and Costanzo did.”
Have you never seen the token blacks that work for FoxNews?
Well – the good news is that these creeps are not in any “government union.” They are at-will employees and Seth Williams can fire them whenever he wants to.
Williams needs to put the good of his Office over his petty beef with Kathleen Kane. If he keeps it up, he is going to end up in the gutter with Kane, Fina, and Costanzo.
What boggles my mind is how a Black man can tolerate the kind of stuff Fina and Costanzo did. It is almost more despicable than an elected D.A. doing so.
Sad isn’t it?
For which kind, Matt?
The one where Blacks are depicted as fried chicken-robbers?
Or the ones where old white perverts suggest their female employees give them oral sex?
No one in a government union will lose their job for these kinds of emails.
All Hail – We shall see if Kane did anything wrong. There will be a jury that will answer that question.
My understanding is that J. Carpenter was the Judge supervising the Grand Jury from which Kane was alleged to have leaked information. If that’s true, he would have been the appropriate Judge to take action. It has been reported that he wrote to Castille before moving on it. Not sure what he did wrong.
IMO – Fina still needs to answer why he did not prosecute that NAACP leader. It has been reported that Seth Williams (Fina’s current boss) and the NAACP leader are close. What was really going on behind the scenes?
Fina and Costanzo could NEVER answer to the stuff reported in Philadelphia Magazine… for there is no answer. They can not and should not be trusted with peoples’ lives and futures. Prosecutors must be morally upstanding people. Below is from Philadelphia Magazine:
The very first image in the binder — part of an email from Fina to two colleagues — depicts a topless woman on her back, giving oral sex to a man in a dress shirt. It is captioned in the style of a motivational poster: “WILLINGNESS: Bend over backwards to do an exceptional job.”
The next image? Another woman. Also giving oral sex. “DEVOTION: Making your boss happy is your only job.”
It’s not all blowjobs. The next image in the set featured anal sex.
The stuff that wasn’t pornographic was still demeaning to women and minorities. Fina’s group of faux motivational posters included an image of a white man, carrying a bucket of fried chicken, being accosted by two deranged-looking black men. The caption? “Bravery at its finest.”
One of the few pictures of a clothed female showed a woman wearing a T-shirt emblazoned: “WIFE: Washing, Ironing, F**ing, Etc.” (The letters in the explicit word were blurred in the photo) That caption? “PLACE: Know it!”
And that’s not even mentioning another email — this one not to or from Fina — that carries the subject line, “Hot Ghetto Mess.”
Hey Karhy Kane send your investigators to investigate all of the Vetri restaurants for any violations if any laws in PA and close them down if you can for Health Code Violations or anything else you can find on this Vetri Resturants Fight Fire with Fire
Resa Ferman
ATTENTION : Kathy Kane. Announce now for reelection and seek all enforcements. And Soak all the Wretched Lawyers in PA and other States for Contributions Also form a Grand Jury to Investigate who leaked the info in your case Also do everything you can to put Judge Carpenter and That Creep Tesa Ferman in Jail for running a Star Chamber
Let her stay for her trial!