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BREAKING: Committee Recommends Full Senate Consider Kane Removal

Kane-ConferenceTo quote Winston Churchill, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

The State Senate committee investigating Kathleen Kane voted to recommend that the full upper chamber consider the AG’s removal.

The committee voted 5-2 in favor of this action. All four Republican Senators (Joe Scarnati, John Gordner, Lisa Baker, Gene Yaw) as well as Democratic Chair Sean Wiley voted in favor. The committee’s two other Democrats, Art Haywood and Judy Schwank, voted against the resolution.

“After careful consideration and deliberation of the testimony presented and evidence received, the Special Committee on Senate Address, while making no specific finding on direct removal, finds a sufficient basis for the Senate to move forward with due notice to Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane and a full hearing pursuant to Article VI, Section 7 of the Pennsylvania Constitution,” the committee writes in their report.

Article VI, Section 7 of the PA Constitution concerns the removal of civil officers. It states that:

All civil officers shall hold their offices on the condition that they behave themselves well while in office, and shall be removed on conviction of misbehavior in office or of any infamous crime. Appointed civil officers, other than judges of the courts of record, may be removed at the pleasure of the power by which they shall have been appointed. All civil officers elected by the people, except the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, members of the General Assembly and judges of the courts of record, shall be removed by the Governor for reasonable cause, after due notice and full hearing, on the address of two-thirds of the Senate.

The full State Senate must still vote to open the inquiry.

127 Responses

  1. SpongeBob-

    You have no hammer to drop on me. You claim to “dabble” and have influence, yet completely fail to understand that I’m not part of the “establishment” nor involved with the big money players (you pretend to know).

    I help out a lot of candidates that the party fails to adequately support (even when they are supposedly supporting them). They are pretty grateful for my help, and not likely to care what some “dabbler” thinks.

    You seem to want me to extoll your influence against me.. after claiming you would be going after me anonymously and indirectly.

    Which is it? Make up your mind.

    You could just post your name, but you won’t, because that would prove my point that you are a poser.

    People thought I was “washed up” when I started trashing “golden boy” Sestak, but it turns out it got me a lot of business (and even some apologies from people who realized I was right).

    So, I’m sure that whatever storm you think you can bring will not even show up on my radar as a mild drizzle. More likely you will get laughed at for crying that I called you or something you said stupid months ago on a blog.

    Please send me the list of the first three people that laughed in your face for even bringing this up. Make sure you don’t forget to leave out that your handle is SpongeBob.

    I’ve called Bob Brady a traitor to the party. I can’t even think of anyone that would be considered “influential” whose opinion of me would be lowered by you crying over an insult to your anonymous posting identity.

  2. David you are a phony, you claim to have all this work but the Democratic Chairman of the State Committee Marcel Groen states this about you
    “No such person works for or represents the Pennsylvania Democratic Party ” you are a fraud who has been outed. Face with all your bluster you never respond to your false allegations. If you are legit have Marcel contact me and reverse his earlier statement. He knows how to get a hold of me.. Bye Bye David oh and please send my warmest regards to your best friend his name is what
    Ha Ha that’s right the guy who tells you what to do. Another phony. Bye boys just make sure your quotes to the press match your posts because you’re gonna look alfull stupid but for you that’s not hard to do. Have fun boys . Can’t wait to read this story oh and with all this going on I don’t think you’ll get any support from the party or they’ll be looking to any help for any candidates that may be helping. You lay your stain on every candidate and I have been told by a top Democratic leader you know the party you don’t work for that you were nothing but now knowing what they know you are nothing and toxic

  3. David, for someone who seemingly doesn’t care you seem to be lay here out a lot of reasons for me to not drop the hammer on you. I dabble in politics when it suits. I suspect you will understand more soon. Again I ask if I do demonstrate to you my ability to influence your situation can I count on you coming here and extolling my influence? Somehow I suspect you will resort to more name calling. Oh and yeah I am going to make sure those who carry influence will be sure to know you speak a minority opinion in the party.

  4. HaHaHa-

    I have to say, that with all the fake posters (including your imitators), I’ve lost track of who is who and which side they’re on.

    So, I give you credit for muddling through this mess.

    Kanesdriver has been gone for months now, at least under that handle (but I don’t think that he wants to risk further damage/exposure coming back, especially if his bosses are planning to look over his shoulder).

    SpongeBob talks a good game, but his fake identity and job credentials are so inconsistent, it’s hard to guess what he’ll claim next, like running the computer network for the state senate. Maybe he’ll pretend to be privy to senate deliberations.

  5. SpongeBob-

    I think it’s hilarious that you think you can bring “misfortune” to me over an insult to anonymous poster. I’ve repeated told my actual boss “to go f*ck himself”, and he still won’t fire me.

    The political money I make on the side is pocket change. I was actually going to give it up last year, but candidates and activists keep calling me up for access. I even had to turn down a senate candidate, due to a prior commitment in the same race. Over 90% of the accounts are free to committee people, and the pay accounts are there to cover the free accounts and my time.

    Frank Kavulski-

    You are the only Frank that I’ve had any communication with in weeks, and that’s whatever is in this thread this weekend. If there are two of you posting under the same fake handle, that’s between you two to fight it out.

    BTW, what’s behind your choice of fake name. There is no registered voter in PA with that last name. Is it the Latvian word for “horsesh*t” or “retarded”, as some kind of inside joke?

    Do you think trash talk insults to anonymous posters is going to get anyone fired up seeking justice? You have hit a new level of stupid on this site.

  6. Haha since you are so interested in knowing who everyone is why not tell us who you are. I’m sure your parents must have given you a name other than HAHA and why do you rely on David to do your work. Are you not smart enough to do it yourself. Oh I forgot your name is HaHa (your words not mine) Be your own man HaHa don’t be telling Dave. Hmm HaHa maybe your folks did name you. This is too easy.

  7. LOL … Retards “investigating” the use of “retard.” If it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny. Who am I kidding …. It is hilarious!!

    DD – let me know when you figure out who this FOXtard is.

  8. David……that’s because we both know that you were contacted by a 3rd party named Frank who advised you of information he received about you this evening that’s why you mentioned the God part which was mentioned in the information sent to Frank but not publicly mentioned here until my last post offering to pray for you. I’m amazed how you continually defer the subject to something where you feel you have some superiority but don’t. Face it, your caught. The party chairman denies any connection of you with the party. I’m sure the substantiated allegations regarding your termonoligy has been proven as its in your own posts (Wasn’t that dumb Dave) (My words not yours) As these allegations are investigated and acted upon I wish you and your friend HAHA a joyous Christmas as I know you’ll be expecting big changes in the New Year. My work here is finished, case closed, referral made.

  9. Ha ha ….. Trolls, Hicks, Hacks…….. Why not ask David who Frank is and why Frank gave him a heads up on some relevant and verifiable information he received tonight. Then you may wish to rethink your statements. As a matter of fact I believe you referred to someone this evening as a retard (your word not mine). You may want to spend some time looking at the Americans with Disabilities Act and find the part where civil judgements can be assesed against a person who defames a person by falsely accusing them of a mental deficiency. I think you and David using the word retard (your word not mine) may apply. Since Dave is really interested in knowing who everyone is why not tell us who you really are. I wonder what the Pennsylvania State Department MHMR will be thinking tomorrow. The best part Ha Ha is the jokes on you (my words not yours) because everything you both said is in written form and has already been copied.i think you’ve both been outdone (my word not yours)by some;Trolls, Hicks and Hacks.

  10. “Frank Kavulski”,

    Did you goof and post under the wrong fake handle when you wrote:

    “David D, why not invite Frank to review your older posts..”

    Why would you refer to yourself in the third person, unless you screwed up and used the wrong fake handle?

    You are really bad at this.

  11. DD – Why are you indulging that FOXtard (another variation)?

    FOXtard trolls like “Kavulski” (just another screen name) talk to no one. They are hicks and hacks … nothing more.

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.

  12. David D, why not invite Frank to review your older posts where you made those horrific statements about mentally challenged persons or as you and HaHa call them “retards” (your words not mine) better yet maybe we can copy them into one big email for all to read. I’m told by the Party Chairman that you are not affiliated with or speak for the Democratic Party. I don’t get the impression he is very happy. Perhaps an apology is still in order Dave.

    While you have publicly stated your non belief in God I still intend to pray for you.

  13. Frank

    There is no way you were recently contacted over a post that would have to be many months old.

    Terms like “republitard” (and “republiturd”) are very common idioms for dealing with the GOP idiocy. Half the population has an I.Q. under 100 (that’s actually by definition that places the middle at 100). According to polls, about 1/5th of Americans think the Sun goes around the Earth, and far more think the Earth is 10,000 years old.

    That is an incredible level of stupidity and ignorance actively working hand in hand.

    You are even dumber and more clueless if you think I speak for the party.

    As for my “God”, I’m not into fictional deities, like most of the population.

    But, if you want to bring “God” into it, ask him why he inflicts disabilities on children. When you don’t get an answer, I doubt it will occur to you that you are talking to yourself.

  14. David Diano, I must admit that I am sickened by your past and current posts. First, to call mentally challenged individuals as “retards” (your words) not mine diminishes what last vestiges of hope for our society as a whole.

    I was recently contacted by a father who’s child you would call a
    “Retard” (your word not mine) who asked if I knew you personally as he would like to have the opportunity to meet you to see if you would call his child that vulgar reference to his face. Furthermore, as if this isn’t wortse enough you state that another individual who disagrees with you most likely appears on a Child Predator list. Are these the statements of someone who holds himself of importance in the Democratic Party.? Do you speak for the party? Are you prepared to defend these statements to the media and social organizations who protect the innocence (my word not yours) of these individuals. You are a disgrace to yourself, your God, and to your family who must bear the burden of their association with you by name. You and those who support you will now have to constantly look over their shoulders and hope just hope your words do no more harm. In the meantime I am sure that any recognized leader from Mr. Groen on down is ready to repudiate your vulgarness.
    I’m afraid that the time for forgiveness has now expired and the time for action is now at hand for you, HaHa and anyone else who supports your despised statements.

  15. So far – nothing from Nick Field about the fact that Frank Fina has the same lawyer as Tyron Ali – the con-man who is his Star Witness in the legislative sting case.

    That means the lawyer convinced one client (Fina) to drop all the charges against another client (Ali). Amazingly, that lawyer also convinced his one client to let his other client keep the $400,000.00 he stole from the taxpayers of PA.

    That same lawyer stands to benefit if Fina wins his $$$-driven lawsuit against AG Kane.

    That same lawyer’s wife was just hired by Seth Williams to be “General Counsel” for the D.A.’s Office where Fina now works.

    Cozy!!!

  16. David, whatever makes you feel better. If calling me names does that have at it. I hope you have that same bravado when you come here and update the masses to your misfortune.

  17. DD – he’a a pathetic troll … probably jacking-off on the fact that you are even responding to him.

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.

  18. SpongeBob

    You have reached the delusional level of rskaroff.

    Clearly, you are VERY insecure about your intelligence, since you keep trying to over compensate with false bravado. An insult to your intelligence incurs your “wrath”.

    Kanesdriver thought he was smarter than me too. He leaned the hard way, by going outside this forum.

    But, you are still a chicken-sh*t who is afraid to put his (her?) name up against mine, only willing to attack from the shadows. You should apply for a job working for Fina.

  19. David, you brought this on yourself. You had an opportunity to simply say hey I misspoke and used a term that offends most and I shouldn’t have. Instead you dug your heels in. So I will simply say that since you are standing by your words I stand by mine. Unfortunately for you I am way smarter than you think and my wrath will not expose who I am to you. But hey keep puffing up and doing your thing. I am sure you are right and I have no influence. I wonder though when things happen will you still come here and tell people about it if I do in fact carry that influence? Either way I worry not. I am smiling right now. As it had begun…..

  20. SpongeBob

    So, your plan is to:

    1) hide in the shadows
    2) pretend you are someone important
    3) distort and misrepresent me in an attempt to damage my reputation and political contacts/business
    4) demonstrate that you are too weak and cowardly to fight in this arena, and put your name behind your words (and threats).

    Well, on this site, I’ve called the sitting Gov of my own party ball-less in his budget negotiations, and criticized his behavior regarding the state party chairmanship fight as petty and childish.

    I’m dying to hear how it goes when you cry to him that I insulted the intelligence of you and other anonymous posters. (assuming, he knows who the f*ck you are, and gives a sh*t)

    Who else, are you going to cry to? Rendell? Seth Williams?

    Good luck finding a major player that I haven’t publicly criticized already.

    Maybe, you’ll really get me by trying to damage my relationship with Sestak. (I’m still on his campaign’s emailing list.)

    Of course, if you do attempt to cross the line, and try this bullsh*t with a friend or candidate who I’ve helped, your identity will likely get back to me. Then, you and kanesdriver can start your own support group.

  21. As someone who suffers friends m multiple personalities I will show compassion to you H3. Clearly you are someone who needs help.

  22. David, nice try but my name is far more valuable than yours. But since you have decided not to take the opportunity to apologize for your comments where you used the offensive reference to retard and retarded I have no choice but to follow through on my previous post. Feel free over the next few months to share stories of how your political influence can no be clocked with an egg timer. You brought this on yourself. Let’s see how meaningless my statements are now.

  23. @ d2:

    Actually, your meme recalls the “No one I know voted for Nixon” [mis-]quote of Pauline Kael; as it actually transpired, “The Actual Pauline Kael Quote [was] Not As Bad, and Worse.”

    Here is what she said: ‘I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don’t know. They’re outside my ken. But sometimes when I’m in a theater I can feel them.’

    Podhoretz noted: “Kael was actually acknowledging her provincialism.”

    You have bestowed upon yourself an identical wound.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/culture-civilization/the-actual-pauline-kael-quote%E2%80%94not-as-bad-and-worse/

    As you would probably be forced to conclude, “Perhaps, d2, you ought to get out there and meet some real people, particularly those with whom you may tend to disagree!”

    You would then appreciate the magnitude of the homework assignment you face, retracing your errors and recanting/regretting via atonement, accordingly.

  24. @ d2:

    Your effort to impugn quality-R’s [both Palin/Trump, no matter their media depictions] fails; the former coined the phrase, for example, of “death committees” with regard to ObamaDon’tCare, a prediction that was manifest…and the latter has pointed-out inconvenient truths that have resonated with the public.

    For surcease, read the column that attempts to rehab AG-Kane and my parsing thereof.

    http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2015/11/with_kane_saga_-_how_much_are.html

  25. SpongeBob

    There are plenty of dumb/stupid people in politics: like the Palins

    Nobody I deal with would disagree with that description of them, nor the use of the term describing many GOP policies (and the stuff Trump says).

    But, it really shows your character that you would make a threat against my business/political interests by trying to distort my position, while you hide in the shadows. I guess you can’t handle posting and months of Kane hanging in there and outing corruption.

    Post under your real name, you ball-less wonder, and let’s see how you fare with the friends and business associates you brag about. You are kind of like Trump, claiming expert knowledge and high ranking friends and inside info, but never any real names. At least Trump uses his own name.

    I’m sure that the real reason you hide your name is that you are a total fraud with no connections, and few prospects. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were on a child predator list.

    Put up, or shut up. Post your name so we can all say: who the f*ck is he?

  26. @ d2 & Ha3:

    “Based on the information obtained by the committee and the testimony presented during the public hearings, there are potential broad reaching, negative implications to the license suspension, and public safety in this commonwealth must remain at the forefront. I have some serious concerns, and my vote was indicative of the need to move forward with a full Senate review.”

    So said State Sen. Sean Wiley of Millcreek Township, D-49th Dist.

    “The Special Committee had one charge: Can the Attorney General fulfill the duties of the office with a suspended law license?”

    It appears there is at least one clear-thinking Dem in the state-senate, for he is upholding the best interests of the Commonweal…that y’all defenders of AG-Kane consciously and consistently choose to jettison.

  27. I would like to point out that David also in previous losing battle with me used retard and retarded in an offensive manner. He defended his offensive use and stood by it. I let it go but honestly I think now it’s time the very people he claims to represent hear about it. He has a voter registration list he peddles. I think maybe those he peddles it to will start hearing from some of my friends. Let’s see how man fans he has when his clear hatred of those with mental disabilities is on display. If he apologizes I will consider not unleashing the masses on him.

  28. David D

    You have now proven yourself to be the fraud that you are. The article you show strenuously refer to was an opinion posted on Yardbird.com not exactly where I go for the latest news in Pennsylvania politics.

    Your credability in this group is now zero and the best thing is you did it to yourself. The others in this group now know the truth about you, as it is inow proven..

  29. @ D2:

    Notwithstanding the fact that your credibility has been documented to be “0” for a year, now, you resemble–to Frank–the disrobed emperor.

    I already dismembered the article that you cited, illustrating the gap between what transpired more than a century ago and what is now occurring.

    You’ll get your popcorn-experience in January, instigated by the Senate itself rather than via the House [which would have taken longer].

    A fair reading of the preliminary report is damning, for it “telegraphs” established problems that are destined to fester under AG-Kane.

    You should start accruing your myriad false-statements over the Holidays, so that you can submit a gigantic mea-culpa [amplified by an apology to the disabled] shortly after New Year’s Day.

  30. Frank Kavulski-

    Footnote? I gave you a link to a well researched article on the entire subject. I can’t help it if you are too dumb to understand it. This is all a weak and cowardly attempted removal by trying to side-step the proper method of removal: impeachment

  31. Katniss Kane will be found Not Guilty she will shock the World by taking down some of the most powerful people in Law Enforcement and in The Judiciary . Kane is the right person to reform one of the most corrupt States / Commonwealths in The USA . Prosecutors 2 close to Judges . Judges making Millions off their Positions by Reffering Huge Cases to their wives . Judges Selling Kids into insitutions for Kick Backs . PA Just reeks of Corruption and AG Kane is going to bring them all down She needs to stay in office and she needs to be reelected

  32. David D. So if I understand your post you are relying on someone who you chose not to identify or footnote and that’s what caused you to post your previous unsubstantiated statement. I merely asked you to cite the specific clause in the Pennsylvania Constitution to support your statement and you failed to do that. Instead, you appeared to rely on someone else’s thoughts. Your credibility is now zero. You have falsely defamed those victims in the mental health community without the requested certification. Article VI Section 7 of the Penssylvania as noted in the news article above does NOT make any reference to mental stability plus I’m sure since your research relies on the opinion of a source who is WRONG proves your conclusions to be; false, factually inaccurate and place an unbearable burden who those individuals who suffer from a disability to which the United States Ferderal Government says you may not discriminate against. You are wrong, you intentionally intended to deceive members of this blog and there is no reason to believe anything further you state. You owe all mentally disabled people and those who care for them an immediate apology or are you not man enough to do it.

  33. Frank Kavulski

    Section 7, that the Senate committee is using, was originally intended to remove officers for lack of competence (ie senility).

    This is from an article analyzing the issue:
    “reasonable cause’ for which an elected officer can be removed in this manner under this provision, does not refer to or include a cause amounting to an impeachable or indictable offense, but refers only to causes other than impeachable or indictable offenses, incapacitating him from properly discharging his duties, such as insanity, senility, incompetency, protracted illness or absence, or other similar cause, which would not be sufficient to warrant either his impeachment or indictment, and in any of which cases there would be no mode of removal possible, except for this provision.” (Emphasis mine.)

    Simply put, the direct removal clause wasn’t meant as an easy alternative to impeachment, as Kane’s opponents today say. It was meant to provide a means of removing an office holder incapacitated by illness, and not accused of a crime, or an impeachable offense.”
    – See more at:
    http://www.yardbird.com/kathleen_kane_direct_removal_clause_in_PA_constitution_was_once_tried_and_failed.htm#sthash.Y8cRl1ki.dpuf

    Also, the current form was not intended to remove high rankings elected officials, like the A.G. (which was not an elected position at the time) given the list of elected officials excluded.

  34. David D. I’m not sure I can find where it is written in the Pennsylvania Constitution that defines a mentally incapacitated individual and how such a person can be removed by the Senate. Could you please cite the specific section and not your interpretation of the wording but the section that states a MENTALLY INCAPACITED can be removed by the Senate. I am aware of several groups who advocate on behalf of such people that are personally offended that you made such a post.. I’m told that either citing the specific section of the Constitution or in the absence of such, should be accompanied by an apology for deliberate falsification which may cause to demean the character of such individuals. They now will monitor this blog to decide if further action should be taken.

  35. I hope I get my wish too – your keyboard breaking and the TRUTH coming out about the ayyy-holes driving the Clown Car.

  36. @ d2:

    You’ll probably get your wish in one respect, for the composition of the Supremes that may ultimately rule will probably become Dem-dominated; nevertheless, it will uphold the Senatorial/Gubernatorial action.

  37. rsklaroff

    Your rabid right wing buddies are the ones who don’t understand it.

    This month, we elected three new supreme court judges. So, I’m hoping that the ruling on the constitutionality of the current senate action is ruled on by them, and not the current court.

  38. As has been noted when a sweep-hand clock that’s broken will be correct twice daily, your new observation [“We need to elect officials who understand it”] is correct; unfortunately, your gal AG-Kane doesn’t fit the bill.

  39. Frank kavulski-

    They aren’t following the PA constitution. They are deliberately attempting to misapply the law (designed to remove mentally incapacitated lower officials) to overturn an election of a high ranking public official who has exposed pervasive political and unethical conduct in our justice system.

    So, no need to “change the constitution” as you suggest. We need to elect officials who understand it.

  40. David D,

    Since this is a blog I’m glad I can express my personal opinion. The Senate and its members are following the Constitution of this Commonwealth. They owe you nor anyone else an apology to do what they are lawfully man dared to do. Loose interpretation of the US Constitution these days are why this country is in the trouble it is. If you don’t like living here, either change the Constitution, Move or the most realistic solution think before you post your idiotic statements that have followed you through this blog. Maybe it is you who should apologize.

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