Comments on: House Rs Resurrect Congressional-Based Electoral College Plan

By: Chet Royer

Chet Royer — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:16:15 +0000

This is the GOP raising the White Flag in PA. It is very sad that between the tea party and what is happening in DC, the normal PA GOP moderate is left without a home.

By: Coco

Coco — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:19:15 +0000

@Republicans. You guys spend more time and energy trying to rig the system than actually reaching out to the growing populations of minorities and young people. As a Dem, I’m overwhelmed with joy by these actions. It only reaffirms that the Republicans are a dying breed that only look out for the interests of the 2%.

By: Paul Roden

Paul Roden — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:42:05 +0000

The problem is that Republicans come out to vote consistently and vote for Republicans more consistently then Democrats and independents. The Republicans stay on message and repeat it ad nauseum. The Democrats don’t show up to vote consistently for Democrats and lack a coherent narrative, message and don’t stay on that message. The Republicans have more money than Democrats. The Republicans can pay their people to be at the Polls on Election day. But despite money, more direct mail, ads and attack ads on TV, robo calls, we can win if we have a message, enough of us volunteer and go door to door, have a strong and simple message, we can win. PA State Representative Steve Santarsiero was able to do that in the last election by over 5,435 votes after winning only 2 years ago by 163 votes. He did that against a Tea Party candidate who had Citizens Alliance Of PA, Freedom Works, State & Cty GOP, Americans for Prosperity and other Koch Brothers funded astroturf groups. He won in every single precinct in his PA Assembly District . He won in Precincts where no Democrat has ever won before in the history of the Lower Makefield Township. He won more votes in some Precincts than Obama and any other Democrat on the ballot. We can do this with the right candidate, message and organizational strategy.

By: buzzard1950

buzzard1950 — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:21:44 +0000

I cant see how this will help the Republicans. Everytime they open their mouth they soot themselves in the foot

By: S Wolf

S Wolf — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:34:57 +0000

Wow. I read these articles and comments and think, “Why are our men and women in uniform dying for American democracy when our lawmakers dishonor them by doing everything they can to take away the keystone of our democracy, OUR VOTE?” This is a very dangerous game and sacrifices the soul and spirit of what America stands for. Votes are not spoils for the taking.
I am tired of our PA governor, senators and house members behaving like carpet baggers and divvying up PA as spoils. News flash… OUR STATE AND OUR VOTES ARE NOT FOR SALE!
Our votes in PA are funneled through our Redistricting and our Electoral College Processes which should be handled as importantly as the money in our bank accounts… by the numbers and safe from political interference and theft.
But, instead PA Redistricting is handled in back rooms by Republican politicians who do what they can to RIG the SYSTEM to make sure they stay in power… and now they want to add our Electoral College to clinch it. No one person or party should have this power and WE should vote to STOP this process.
Any person or party who can’t win on their merits but has to RIG the SYSTEM and CHEAT to win are COWARDS and THIEVES and don’t belong in office.
This plan to steal PA votes is by its very nature Un-American… and I would hope Unconstitutional and illegal. These attempts disgrace PA, disgrace America, and DISHONOR our BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN who put their lives on the line for ALL of us and not just for those “special” people who CAN RIG the SYSTEM — those who are in power and those who hide in the shadows and fund their campaigns… those people who call those who disagree Un-American and who aren’t satisfied with their spoils, but who believe their positions give them the right to trade PA’s citizens to the highest bidder and take away Our precious AMERICAN RIGHT TO disagree and VOTE THEM OUT.
Shame, shame, shame if we let them do it.

By: Porter Randolph

Porter Randolph — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:04:46 +0000

I don’t really care how PA does it, as long as every state in country awards their electoral college votes the same way. If this plan is such a great idea for PA, it should be a great idea for Texas where Democratic candidates would like pick up electoral college votes around population centers like Houston, Dallas, and Austin (same for Georgia around Atlanta, Lousiana around New Orleans, and so on). This state by state crap doesn’t hold water as a good idea and comes off as sour grapes. There is one cure for losing – winning – not changing the rules, just win.

By: coco

coco — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:56:24 +0000

Love Republicans; instead of addressing their problems with women, blacks, hispanics and young voters, they’re simply trying to rig the system in their favor. It will, inevitably, backfire and we can enjoy Clinton ’16

By: T Law

T Law — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:57:13 +0000

Vote rigging, re-branded. A third world autocrat would be proud

By: newgulph

newgulph — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:51:32 +0000

A survey of Pennsylvania voters showed 78% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
Support was 87% among Democrats, 68% among Republicans, and 76% among independents.
By age, support was 77% among 18-29 year olds, 73% among 30-45 year
olds, 81% among 46-65 year olds, and 78% for those older than 65.
By gender, support was 85% among women and 71% among men.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections. No more distorting and divisive red and blue state maps. There would no longer be a handful of ‘battleground’ states where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 80% of the states that now are just ‘spectators’ and ignored after the conventions.

When the bill is enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes– enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538), all the electoral votes from the enacting states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC.

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). Support for a national popular vote is strong among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group in virtually every state surveyed in recent polls in recent closely divided Battleground states: CO – 68%, FL – 78%, IA 75%, MI – 73%, MO – 70%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM– 76%, NC – 74%, OH – 70%, PA – 78%, VA – 74%, and WI – 71%; in Small states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK – 70%, DC – 76%, DE – 75%, ID – 77%, ME – 77%, MT – 72%, NE 74%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM – 76%, OK – 81%, RI – 74%, SD – 71%, UT – 70%, VT – 75%, WV – 81%, and WY – 69%; in Southern and Border states: AR – 80%, KY- 80%, MS – 77%, MO – 70%, NC – 74%, OK – 81%, SC – 71%, TN – 83%, VA – 74%, and WV – 81%; and in other states polled: AZ – 67%, CA – 70%, CT – 74%, MA – 73%, MN – 75%, NY – 79%, OR – 76%, and WA – 77%. Americans believe that the candidate who receives the most votes should win.

The bill has passed 31 state legislative chambers in 21 states with 243 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 9 jurisdictions with 132 electoral votes – 49% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

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