The Pennsylvania State Senate will be looking into ways to remove Attorney General Kathleen Kane from office.
According to Karen Langley of the Post-Gazette, a bipartisan special committee will be formed to explore the upper chamber’s options as stated in Article 6 Section 7 of the State Constitution.
This option was first mentioned last month as a possible route to remove Kane without using the formal impeachment process. It would also allow the State Senate and the Governor to bypass the State House.
Apparently, this initiative was first revealed by State Sen. John Rafferty when he told a group of Berks County Republicans last night. Undoubtedly, Senate leaders won’t be happy about that as Rafferty is running to replace Kane and the body seems to want this to be a bipartisan endeavor.
Kane, of course, is facing nine criminal charges and her law license has already been suspended.
Loading ...
185 Responses
@ Henry Tate:
I posted a summary of the comments on this case [provided on this website] to the two websites you cited–
http://www.yardbird.com/kathleen_kane_direct_removal_clause_in_PA_constitution_was_once_tried_and_failed.htm
http://newslanc.com/2015/10/26/capitolwire-senate-weighing-into-legal-gray-area-to-initiate-possible-action-against-kane/comment-page-1/#comment-283370
–and directed the reader [with appropriate warnings] back to PoliticsPa for elaborative analysis.
HaHaHa-
“someone needs to ask DA Ferman and DA-wanna-be Kevin Steele why their Office is not investigating the MANY leaks from the grand jury that investigated Kathleen Kane.”
Maybe because they can’t find a mirror?
MTG-
What is your occupation? Lawyer? Politician? Staffer?
MontCo is having it’s own problems. Apparently they only prosecute political enemies, like AG Kane:
Cosby Accuser Sues Former Montco DA
Article reads:
Andrea Constand, who sued Bill Cosby for sexual assault in 2005, has filed a complaint against the former Montgomery County district attorney who declined to prosecute Cosby that year.
Constand’s lawsuit alleges one count of defamation and one count of false light and invasion of privacy by Montgomery County Commissioner and former district attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. Castor is currently running for Montgomery County district attorney.
According to a civil complaint filed by Constand’s lawyers, Dolores M. Troiani and Bebe H. Kivitz, Castor allegedly conveyed and implied that Constand was inconsistent in her accusations of Cosby and exaggerated her claims. The complaint requests judgment in excess of $150,000 for each count plus attorney’s fees, interest, costs, punitive damages and other relief.
Constand’s complaint said Castor announced in February 2005 that he had declined to prosecute Cosby, and failed to notify Constand prior to doing so. But recently, the complaint said, Castor has used Constand’s allegations in his political campaign.
According to the complaint, Castor told the Associated Press in September that Constand lodged more serious complaints in her civil suit than she told police. The complaint said he told the press that the lawsuit included allegations of digital penetration, a felony, but the 2005 criminal case was investigated as a misdemeanor.
“Upon learning in September 2015 that the present district attorney was considering a prosecution which would reveal that he had been wrong about the statute of limitations having run, defendant, instead of correcting his error, chose to make plaintiff collateral damage for his political ambitions,” the complaint said.
Castor did not immediately return a call seeking comment Monday.
http://www.thelegalintelligencer.com/id=1202740728258/Cosby-Accuser-Sues-Former-Montco-DA#ixzz3phZuwk5U
LOL … It looks like someone (the infamous shill-boy MTG) doesn’t want this conversation to turn to this very simple question:
Why haven’t DA Ferman and DA-wanna-be Kevin Steele started an investigation into the MANY leaks from the grand jury that investigated Kathleen Kane?
Care to venture a guess, shill-boy?
And now MTG is pretending to be Fina and a Corbett Perv and an occupant of the Clown Car. I wonder what MTG is doing right now. I wonder what kind of breakfast cereal Fina eats. Does MTG eat breakfast cereal? The Repervlicans are everywhere. I won’t take my meds. I can’t take my meds. Fina put things in my meds. MTG probably put things in my meds too. Or Larry, or Pat Unger — wait, I’m Pat Unger. No, I’m aaron. No, I’m HaHaHa. I hate Fina so much. Shillboy. Fina. Shill. Pervs.
But seriously:
Why haven’t DA Ferman and DA-wanna-be Kevin Steele started an investigation into the MANY leaks from the grand jury that investigated Kathleen Kane?
Poor MTG … He is now posing as “Larry.” One has to be pretty down on oneself to pretend to be a “Larry.” … LMAO …
HaHaHa, are you talking to yourself again?
Pat poses a very good – and substantive – issue below. When is someone going to get some answers from Ferman and Steele?
Pat Unger says:
October 26, 2015 at 1:09 pm
In my humble opinion – someone needs to ask DA Ferman and DA-wanna-be Kevin Steele why their Office is not investigating the MANY leaks from the grand jury that investigated Kathleen Kane.
It has been said that selective enforcement is a form of corruption. If that is true and they are choosing to go after the one alleged leak committed by Kane while ignoring the MANY leaks from the Kane grand jury, then they are corrupt.
When will the media ask them? If not the media – when will Castor ask them?
Capitolwire: ‘Ardo said the office has not conducted its own research on precedent of the removal clause, but forwarded to reporters an article written by local Harrisburg author Bill Keisling. Keisling’s article highlights the 1891 case when Gov. Robert Pattison attempted to remove state Treasurer Henry Boyer and Auditor General Thomas McCamant, both duly elected row officers, who were both accused of taking bribes.
‘A vigorous debate occurred on the issue, according to the Senate Journal for the extraordinary session, which can be accessed via Google Books (see link below).
‘Keisling’s article quotes a book, “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States,” which said:
‘“The counsel for all officers objected to the jurisdiction of the Senate upon the grounds that the governor had no power to institute charges, that the proceedings upon such charges were not ‘executive business,’ and consequently could not be considered at an extraordinary session of the Senate, and that no officer could be removed for an impeachable offense without a previous conviction upon an impeachment or indictment.”
http://newslanc.com/2015/10/26/capitolwire-senate-weighing-into-legal-gray-area-to-initiate-possible-action-against-kane/
http://www.yardbird.com/kathleen_kane_direct_removal_clause_in_PA_constitution_was_once_tried_and_failed.htm
http://www.yardbird.com/pdfs/Proceedings_of_the_Senate_of_Pennsylvania_Extraordinary_session_of_1891.pdf
http://www.yardbird.com/pdfs/Commentaries_on_the_constitution_Roger_Foster_1895_partial.pdf
Yes. I agree. Time for MTG to go get some fresh air … Jeeeesh ………. He seems to have lost it today.
H3 just the other day said he would not vote for Kane in 2016. He/she is far from a Kane supporter. Lots of people now know that there is more to this story.
And I, for one, hope Kane keeps telling it. I don’t care for racists much, I guess.
Hate to say it MTG – but you aren’t funny. Time to give your keyboard a rest.
HaHaHa, do you think we should pay any attention to every published article on Kathleen Kane? ‘Cause none of them supports our girl. In fact, they all seem pretty convincing that she’s guilty and that Eakin only sent two un-pornographic emails and that Fina did not break the law at all. Should we be worried about howling at the moon all by ourselves?
Shill Boy, Repervlicans, Clown Car, FINA!!!!!!!!! That feels better. Did I forget anyone? oh and MTG, my meds are none of your business. That being said I pop lithium like tic tacs, no effect anymore.
Tomorrow will be a new day, MTG … Everything is going to be alright. You can pick yet another screen-name and continue your shill-boy routine. Just relax !!
H3, I’ve lost track of how many screen names you use (this one and Pat Unger, as far as I can tell), but I’m just MTG 24/7. And since you rant and rave like someone whose lithium stopped working, I don’t feel the need to respond to you. Carry on.
It’s OK, MTG … Settle down … Take deep breaths … It will all be OK … Breathe!!
Um, I am literally too stupid to satirize. Why am I here?
Oh boy!! MTG is coming unglued …
The DA still has to convince 12 out of 12 jurors on these bogus charges.
Yeah, no real comment other than I am a dbag in this universe too. Although since I myself am an invented screen name for another commenter I find it funny that I would rip someone else for that. Oh yeah, that’s right. I forgot the whole dbag thing.
In my humble opinion – someone needs to ask DA Ferman and DA-wanna-be Kevin Steele why their Office is not investigating the MANY leaks from the grand jury that investigated Kathleen Kane.
It has been said that selective enforcement is a form of corruption. If that is true and they are choosing to go after the one alleged leak committed by Kane while ignoring the MANY leaks from the Kane grand jury, then they are corrupt.
When will the media ask them? If not the media – when will Castor ask them?
afraid to show your face now that H3 TOTALLY OWNED you, MTG?!?
MTG – you using multiple screen names is kinda … no – VERY … lame.
Hi everyone, in this universe I don’t pretend to know facts about the law or how many documents Kathleen Kane signed when she took office. In this universe I know that a competent lawyer knows what a secrecy oath is, I know that lawyers don’t treat pieces of paper that they sign that carry the weight of law behind them lightly. I also know that just because I believe in issues of the democratic party that I don’t assume that every democrat is above breaking the law. Here in this universe it’s quite possible for someone like Kathleen Kane to get in over her head and make a lot of stupid decisions that should result in her not being in office. Oh I still hate Fina, and Repervlicans and Clown Car and Corbett Pervs here but every now and then I make sane arguments based on facts and reality. Not, you know, based on my limited knowledge of all things about everything. Please go about your mindless arguing about a woman who is about to see her political career end. I will fade back to my universe, unless you want to talk some more.
LOL @ mental patient sklaroff. He is human pollution. His mom’s placenta was declared a Super-Fund site after his birth.
DD – A felony is a felony is a felony … and Kane may have committed one when she walked into their perjury trap. That’s on her.
MTG — WAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ MTG: There is no need to pander to admittedly-peripheral arguments by the “no-cred”-types on this website, by attacking JoePa/PSU. [Disclosure: I got a B.S. @ PSU in ’72].
@ eagleswing: AG-Kane couldn’t have gotten away with destroying the affidavits because their existence could have been traced via the Notary. [This would justify raising this particular charge during her Senatorial Hearing.]
@ d2: You have been reduced to your final defense, hoping that one juror would resist conviction for obviously-justified charges. [Again, you may wish to collaborate with Ha3 while preparing your mea-culpas for postings that have consistently polluted this website.]
// Slams Mic //
WAH …. Kane is exposing the truth about my bosses … Wahhhhhhhhhhhh … …. She should have resigned by now … … … WAH !!!!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ….. …. …. ….. …. Perjury is a felony … WAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! … …. And HER SISTER !!! HER SISTER !!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh … … … … … … … Her sister got the racist, woman-hating e-mails tooooooooooooooooooooo … … … Wah
MTG – Then you should visit with your parents and start a conversation!! I say that ONLY because they produced you … a pathetic ass-clown cry-baby shill-boy.
Observer 3, nothing but ad hominems? I love debating with dumb people.
So pathetic. Has she resigned yet?
eagleswing – totally agree.
what do you think about the CONSTANT leaks from the grand jury “investigating” kane?
MTG – you should change your screen-name to “Ass Clown Shill”
1) most prosecutors who took grand jury secrecy oaths remember them. most attorneys also know PA law well enough to know that the grand jury act prohibits releasing such documents unless done under one of few exceptions to the Act. so it’s not reassuring that Kane’s PR shills constructed the ‘i was just a housewife then defense’ as her defense to the initial charges of having leaked grand jury documents. 2) before Kane let her paid shill broadcast the housewife ‘defense’ , why not look in the office paperwork and see if you actually signed a secret oath? you could have gotten to it before the investigators did, then destroyed it and gotten yourself a ‘tampering with evidence ‘ charge.
MTG-
” You could not find a prosecutor anywhere who would agree with that characterization”
Just have to find one juror.
Has she resigned yet? This is a true shame on the Democratic party of pa. Remove her and her pornography and let’s get a gop ag in there to restore honor and credibility to the office. Just distgusting.
Sklaroff, I disagree. It’s what is really motivating the fringe element that turns any discussion of Kane into a scathing indictment of Fina and the other prosecutors who put away Sandusky. H3’s verbal tick about “Repervlicans” and “Corbett pervs” have to come from somewhere. He swears he isn’t defending Kane, but he (meaning H3 and PU, the same person I assume) sees a Kane story and immediately begins ranting about Fina.
They’re joebots. So they deserve no respect and no credibility.
@ MTG:
Your otherwise eloquent postings are marred by unnecessary swipes against JoePa/PSU; it’s preferable not to get sucked into Sandusky when focusing on the multiple deviations of AG-Kane.
HaHaHa/Pat Unger, you mentioned “shills” but you forgot to mention “Repervlicans,” the “Clown Car,” or “Corbett pervs.” You’re slipping. Sorry Fina successfully prosecuted your beloved child rapist and that Paterno had to face the consequences of covering that nastiness up. Don’t know what Paterno was thinking.
Scroll down, shill-boy. You will see below post from Pat. LOTS OF SUBSTANCE in there. It’s almost comical that you shills cry so much when the conversation turns to the truth. Wahhhhhhh WAH Wahhhhhhhhhh
Pat Unger says:
October 25, 2015 at 11:37 am
Let’s focus here. Kane may have really messed up. Her zeal to get back at a low-level Corbett crony may have been what undoes her. And she DID seem to walk right into their perjury trap.
But her screw-ups should not cause any reasonable observer to over-look what the Judges and prosecutors were doing when they thought they would never get caught. It shouldn’t stop us from asking questions about why Corbett and Ryan tried to “destroy the evidence” by getting rid of 20M e-mails.
And there should be a full investigation into:
– Fina and his buddies mis-using State equipment
– the leaking of tons of protected grand jury material from the Kane investigation
– whether the material in the e-mails was “obscene” according to federal law
– the mis-use of the criminal justice system
– improper relationships between Judges and prosecutors
Once all that gets done, Kane can go to jail … assuming she illegally leaked protected grand jury information.
And to prove my point, HaHaHa and Pat Unger (if they are even two different people) appear with nothing of substance in response to my points. Thanks for conceding the point, boys. By the way, Penn State football really sucks. That must burn you up. Hey, do you guys see Sandusky the same way that Hollywood types see Mumia Abu Jamal — innocent and oppressed?
Pat – that may be the funniest thing ever posted here. Do shills like MTG really think we don’t see through them? A good shill covers it up much better ….
These are the Multi(ple) Tasks the General must perform:
– draft Motions to try to cover-up “Porngate” + file said Motions
– pick up Fina’s dry-cleaning
– research hair-regeneration methods
– leak stuff to Craig & Angela
– check air-pressure in Costanzo’s work vehicle
– post anti-Kane garbage online
– refer to racist e-mails shared by Judges and prosecutors as “porn”
– pretend everyone who disagrees is on some team
Hey MTG – You mad, bro?
LMAO
Diano, your continued efforts to play amateur lawyer are really sad. You keep writing off a grand jury secrecy oath as a routine piece of paper. You could not find a prosecutor anywhere who would agree with that characterization.
Meanwhile, Pat Unger goes out of his way to find new and creative ways to say, “I, Pat Unger, am a Joebot. Therefore, Fina is evil and you are a shill.” He is happy to find an ally in HaHaHa, who never says anything but some variation on Repervlicans and Clown Car and so forth. That guy shows all the signs of a bumbling idiot who realizes that he can’t make an argument with facts.
So, to you “shills,” I sincerely hope that the Joe Paterno status is melted down to make leg irons for Kane and numerous commemorative Frank Fina coins for all the joebots who voted for Kane.
@ d2: This document was notarized and, thus, cannot be portrayed as you desire; this is hardly a level of behavior expected by the citizenry as befitting the #1 law-enforcer in the Commonwealth.
The reader is invited to scroll back to review my analyses and projections, including how the scenario leading to AG-Kane’s removal by the senate could be sparked within a few hours.
The “Cliff’s Notes” version of what has been detailed would simply recall the bipartisan desire to conclude–after she has been provided an opportunity to defend herself @ a hearing–that she is unable to discharge her professional duties on behalf of the electorate.
Her remaining defenders have been debunked when, for example, they falsely claim this constitutional mechanism of removing an impaired officeholder would subject her to double-jeopardy [somehow prejudicing next year’s trial in MontCo].
Ultimately, AG-Kane’s efforts to produce “shiny objects” to divert attention [to people such as FF/Eakin] cannot excuse self-inflicted political/professional damage.
She is not “nailed for lying under oath regarding her having signed-off on secrecy”.
It is not reasonable to believe that she would have remembered that memo among the hundreds she signed upon first taking office. The memo is one page and unremarkable in appearance. It looks little different than a typical office memo requesting that staff not eat and make crumbs at their desks.
@ Pat & d2:
There is no detectable need for MontCo to pursue a deal when, @ the very least, she’s nailed for lying under oath regarding her having signed-off on secrecy for all old [and new] Grand Juries.
DD – I believe you are correct. That’s how Fina does business. He plays dirty pool and then tries to make deals so that the truth never comes out in Court. It’s not going to work with Kane … just like it won’t work with the remaining sting suspects.
Just look at what happened when Fina had to try the Sandusky case. He was forced to bring in outside help, Couldn’t handle it himself.
We will see the truth when the sting case goes to trial. And then we will really get the full monty during the Kane trial (at least I hope).
Multi Tasker General-
I grabbed the top search definitions for the term “felony”, that you and your cohorts flagrantly abuse out of context to make Kane’s alleged crimes seem more serious than they are (and they are not the slightest bit serious).
The perjury charges here are trumped up in hopes of obtaining the real goal of removing Kane from office by resignation or other means, prior to a trial where they might not prevail when Kane has an actual defense team.
I’m sure the DA hoped to negotiate away the perjury charges in a plea deal with Kane to force a resignation.