Just when you think things can’t get any stranger, we reach another curve in this long and winding road.
Today Judge William R. Carpenter responded to the Attorney General’s press conference yesterday, where she called for him to release all the pornographic emails found on government computers.
According to Judge Carpenter, the problem is that Kane hasn’t formally filed a request to do that.
“[Kane has not filed] any petition, pleading, motion, or other requests for court action,” he wrote.
“Accordingly, I will take no official action at this time.”
The Judge also took the opportunity to deny any wrongdoing on the part of either himself or the grand jury.
“I made no decision based on politics, gender, anger, bias, or prejudice,” Carpenter stated. “The 35th Statewide Investigating Grand Jury was composed of honest, hard-working men and women, Democrats and Republicans, with various ethnic and employment backgrounds,” Carpenter said. “I take this opportunity to thank them for their work.”
The Attorney General did reveal the names of eight of the individuals involved last year and has disciplined dozens more.
In her news conference yesterday, though, she asserted Carpenter was preventing her from telling the whole story.
It is not clear at this time why there is such a disconnect between the Attorney General and the Montgomery County Judge.
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Oh yeah Davey is into that jailhouse Chaka love you got some conjugal visits scheduled for Chaka yet Davey
@DD:
You channel Lanni Davis who, in turn, emulates lawyers who defended police in the Rodney King affair; you appear to discount the most recent post while attacking its author, notwithstanding all prior comments.
Legalistically, for example, one could anticipate defenders of AG-Kane such as yourself to yelp were the Supreme to strip her law license, even were this to have been preceded by an unfettered hearing; despite attacks on this idea by people claiming experience in this realm, no one has been able to discount the ability of Stilp’s filing to trigger this eventality…which would place this affair into the trash-heap of history.
When she files for the release of the e-mail and they contain nothing extraordinary, will you then unravel all your conjuring threads and support her removal?
Jessica Myers-
1) She’s been unfairly attacked since the beginning
2) She’s made a real effort to clean house
3) She’s refocused the priorities and gone after child predators (rather than coddle them like Sandusky was)
4) Don’t you think Fina and Williams are disgraces?
Porno Dave-
“further their agenda”??
— Universal health care
— good wages
— family leave
— drug treatment programs, over prison
— family planning
— non-discrimination at the workplace (pay and hiring)
— public schools
— roads and bridges
— job training programs
— marriage equality vs you “like our actions the way God created”
— universal suffrage
oh .. the .. horror that you must live in every day of the Dems winning and governing for the 21st century instead of the 19th.
Just for you DD I will direct a movie for all you slovenly immoral Libs titled. Chaka in the can Starring your hero Chaka with co star Rob McCord. With a special guest appearance by Hillbilly because you know she’s packing heat.
My next movie starring the elongated every lasting Bungy. Will be titled. “KATHY IN THE CAN. !!!
DD doesn’t care about the truth. He only cares about the liberal agenda. Crimes are only committed by republicans. That’s how Libs work. Destroying everyone and everything in their path just to further their agenda lowest forms of life in the US. And DD. No transgender here no hearty man man stuff like you like. Hot women Davey. Us conservative s are normal. Not bizzaro world you Libs love. We like our actions the way God created. Keep sticking with the sticks Davey we’ll take the chicks. Loser
DD — what is it with you? Why the blind allegiance? This woman is an abject disgrace.
Disgrace to the legal profession.
Disgrace to the Office.
Disgrace to the Commonwealth.
Disgrace to her children.
Porno dave-
Bungy is your star? I didn’t realize you specialized in transgender films. I expect they must also be mystery stories where the viewers try to guess Bungy’s current/former gender.
OCMD…
1) OCMD stands for Ocean City, MD. ??
2) Do you or Jessica or The Real Truth have photos or video or instagram/twitter postings to back up your claims?
3) Is it somehow illegal/immoral for a woman to go to a party in the summer at a beach/vacation location?
4) Does her husband have custody of the kids on the weekends, preventing her from spending time with them? Are they away at summer camp? (I asked because you have implied that she’s being a bad/negligent mother for not being with her kids as if there could be no other reason.)
Davey D you clown. Bungy is my star . He is the lead in all my films. He can shoot six scenes in a day cause nobody in pirno bounces up like Bungy Btw I heard Kane was to busy partying down. OCMD. Sat nite instead of being with her kids like she was crying about on TV. Are you liberals are the biggest phonies out there. Well First Kandy Kane next humpback Hillary. And you know what your such low life liberals that you’ll accuse republicans of a war on women. It doesn’t matter for Libs if you break the law it’s all about keeping people down so you can control them. I got news for you Davey. Look at the facts prove me wrong. You won’t coward.
Hey Bungy how you been big fellow havent seen you since our last shoot was wondering if you wanna get together OCMD for the weekend also have you seen Dave around the freak porno Dave maybe we need to get him back. He always finds a way to get tossed. Okay will call you later i will take you to see her in psrson thats a promise her sister has promised me she will be there again maybe we can get her to perform like she did on that press confrence. Call or text me when you have time
Davey, PORN STAR. You got it jessy . DRUNK AS USUAL.
This whole thing is a joke i was partying with her the night she got locked i was in OCM having the time of my life. And so was she I wishmi would have never bougt her that drink….. I will tell more later
Bungy, DD —
OCMD. Fri and sat.
bungy
You keep claiming to have all sorts of inside info, like where/how the A.G. spent her Saturday night.
Sounds like you are a stalker or security risk (or a total bullsh*tter).
What is your profession?
She is not allowed to mention anyone who testified in front of the grand jury MORONS. Good luck trying to retaliate against anyone.She will be back in cuffs for contempt of court. more to follow on how she spent Saturday night after being arraigned. HINT: It wasn’t with her Family that’s for sure
Larry-
1) Kane appears to have disagreed with her advisers about the legality of the release. She may well have believed the release legal or at least open to interpretation. She may have based her opinion on someone who did not testify or her own reading of the law. The court may ultimately disagree with her conclusion, but it seems pretty consistent that she thought and continues to think her actions were legal.
2) I got the impression from her press conference that there may have been earlier attempts/threats to silence her against releasing info in the emails. If such threats existed and preceded the grand jury investigation and connect to people in said investigation, then there might be something to her claims. She came in to clean house and the resistance against her started before she even took office.
3) Once she gets the emails released, she can tell the next part of her story. Because, let’s be clear, we really haven’t heard much of the story from her side yet.
every buddys says catlheen kane has lots of porn stuff on her computer at her office but that jest aint true cuz she aint dat kind of girl. I knows Cathleen kane for meny yrs and she aint never done nuthin wrong, she gonna be cleared of the stupid chargas.
Montco, how does that change the testimony of Kane’s closest advisors that they told her the materials could not lawfully be disclosed and she disclosed them anyway? How does it change the testimony about the timeline of events — with several people telling one version and Kane alone telling a significantly different version? Just admit it, the porn emails have nothing to do with the charges and are all about Kane’s continued intent to seek revenge against her enemies.
Was anyone who presented to or presided over the Grand Jury involved in sending or forwarding the emails? If so, they are extremely relevant.
Montco, that doesn’t answer the question. What would that have to do with Kane’s leak of the Mondesire documents and her lying to the grand jury?
Who sent? Who fowarded? And how are they involved in the events that followed? All relevant questions.
MontgomeryCountyPol says, “The content of the emails apparently shows substantial anti-female bias & hostility on the part of those sending and forwarding. ”
ANTI FEMALE BIAS?
How does that align with Kane not firing but promoting a man that sexually harassed not one FEMALE subordinate but two FEMALE subordinates?
Then having KANE firing the HR director that recommended the firing of Duecker?
Isn’t that the essence of a ANTI-FEMALE BIAS?
Nobody cares about porn, racial and or religious JOKE emails, except you liberal PC types. Liberals ruin all the fun in life. Heck up still watching PORN at work right now. My secretary is smoking. Let me see if she wants to watch also. I LOVE PORN. I LOVE HOT CHICKS AND THEY LOVE ME.
Montco PA Dem, please elaborate about how “extremely relevant” they are to Kane’s decision to leak confidential grand jury materials to the press and then lie to a grand jury. Are they “extremely relevant” because they explain Kane’s state of mind when she broke the law? “They were mean to me because I’m a woman, so I broke the law.” Okay, guilty.
The content of the emails apparently shows substantial anti-female bias & hostility on the part of those sending and forwarding. The emails existed well before Kane took office. Depending on who is involved, they could be extremely relevant to the events that followed.
@ DD:
You may wish to convert your stock to the related-product; you will need lotsa layers.
Diano, I agree with your assessment of the press conference, but I still don’t see how porn emails save Kane from the allegations against her. It’s more that she wants to take people down with her.
rsklaroff-
Do you understand the difference between buying stock and buying the actual items?
Apparently not.
DD — Just know that it’s happening.
The big boys.
Larry-
It sounds like the emails contain more than porn, but racial and religious bigotry. This could have a significant impact on anyone in the legal profession that handled cases where such bias could be argued against the results.
I thought the press conference started strong with her denial of the charges and explanation about the motivations. She made it clear why there should be no expectation of her resigning, and made a decent case for the accomplishments of her office (especially the comparisons to stats from previous administrations).
I think she should have talked to her kids before or after the press conference, and not addressed them as part of it.
@ DD:
And you may wish to avail yourself of your new purchases!
Diano, just to be clear, do you expect the porn emails to have any effect whatsoever on the charges that have been filed against Kane? Also, what is your response to every newspaper in the Commonwealth ripping Kane apart for her trainwreck of a press conference?
rsklaroff-
I’ve already made an investment in adult diaper stocks, as I expect for Fina and friends will be crapping their pants.
@ DD:
You may get your wish:
“Kane’s New York City lawyer Gerald Shargel said out of caution, ‘We intend to file a motion next week to ensure that no protective order bars release of the information.’ “
rsklaroff –
I can’t wait for them to be released. Carpenter is contradicting himself. First claiming she needs to file a formal request, then acting she doesn’t. He almost sounds like he’s talking about a different cache of emails than she is.
Kane needs to get this down in writing, file the formal request, and get the formal response.
Carpenter’s statement will now make it harder for him to refuse the request, and protect Kane from trumped up consequences.
The recent events would atter yesterdays comments by Judge Carpenter seem to sustain a view that Carpenter is now subject to recusal at this time since there is an actual charge.
His continual comments speak loudly to his (in my opinion) his personal involvement in the outcomes. His reputation has been called into question.
He has done what he did and it is now up to the courts to dispense judgement on the entire process as the case unfolds in what I would hope would be a different venue in a different county with different jurists.
We are not just talking public interests now we are speaking about a fair trial and rules of evidence that an accused person must have as a means of presenting alternate theories of what crimes were or were not committed.
“Nothing apparently bars Attorney General Kathleen Kane from making public pornographic emails found on state computers, but a judge said Thursday that she has not formally asked for their release.”
Ya know, it’s almost as if you don’t want them to be released, lest they not have anything exculpatory…unlike Hillary’s thumb-drive.
Not so fast. First Carpenter said that he didn’t get a request to release the info, now he’s claiming the info isn’t relevant. This is contradiction, since he put a protective order on it in the first place, and denied access to it by the media.
@ DD:
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/8911743-74/kane-grand-jury#axzz3ibGfMGh1
Grand jury judge leaves porn emails free to be used by AG Kane
Your Move!
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https://www.politicspa.com/breaking-kathleen-kane-press-conference/68358/comment-page-2/#comment-1031091
Jessica
A few specifics?
Unknown is not babbling. He’s right on point.
Trust me.
eagleswing
I was being sarcastic.
Kane got a response and an opening, with the press following up on it. Carpenter doesn’t need her to file jack sh*t since he issued the order and can rescind it any time he wants. Now that she has put him on the spot, he’s got to fold, raise, or bluff. But, at some point he’s got to show his cards to satisfy the press.
DD: ‘So, a public, televised press conference isn’t formal enough?’
actually, demands made in press conferences are not yet a recognized mode of appeal of any court’s order under the Pa. Rules of Criminal and Civil Procedure. one who wants to appeal a release or non release of GJ materials has 30 days to file the appropriate pleading with the appropriate prothonotary.
so if the text of the emails was discovered pursuant to a GJ investigation ( IE , sandusky case GJ, or ‘why it took so long for the Ag Kelly to charge Sandusky’? ) then a court order is needed under the GJ Act for release of any such materials. releasing such GJ materials without court order is a criminal violation (as Kane by now should know.)
Kane could have : 1) filed a petition in common pleas court for release of all emails (under the Grand Jury Act, a court order is necessary to release GJ materials;) (The AG could have claimed public interest would be served by IDing which of those recipients still had jobs in the State; (2) analyzed the court’s order denying/granting such petition , then (3) filed a timely appeal from whatever she disagreed with , and (4) recruited newspapers and the ACLU as amici curiae.
which she did not do.
So, a public, televised press conference isn’t formal enough?
“I made no decision based on politics, gender, anger, bias, or prejudice,”
But maybe it should be:
“I made ALL decisions based on politics, gender, anger, bias, AND prejudice,”
and….
“I take this opportunity to thank them for their work.”
should probably be
“I take this opportunity to thank them for their RUBBER-STAMP”
Unknown, what are you babbling about?
And Unknown? If the FBI is involved, it is because Fina and his crew were leaking details of the Sandusky grand jury to foundation members of the Second Mile foundation. Carpenter is hip-deep in all of that…
No, Carpenter still has a protective order AND a gag order in place, so she CANNOT just release as she would like. For him to say what he said is disingenuous at best, and an outright fabrication at worst. He just provided her more evidence of a biased grand jury proceeding. When has any other judge EVER come out and siad what an “honest” proceeding he has run? Never, that’s when. What a political hack he is…
Contrary to popular belief, this matter is not simply the upshot of ill will between Mr. Fina and the embattled Attorney General. There is a larger battle being waged here – between a struggling “feminist champion” and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Like the criminal charges surrounding former New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, the Kane case is merely another front in this larger battle. Incidentally, it should be painfully evident to all who’s winning this battle. And will become even MORE evident very soon…
Nice picture of the AG. Her mug shot is more becoming.
According to the Morning Call, Kane already has the ability to disclose emails. It seems she simply wants to retaliate against Fina. Not that any of this helps her defense against the charges.
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-p-pa-kathleen-kane-defense-fact-check-20150812-story.html#page=1