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PA Supreme Court Records Contradict Kane’s Claims

Kane-ConferenceThe PA Supreme Court unsealed a December order today to prove that Attorney General Kathleen Kane is free to release other emails.

During last week’s press conference, Kane professed her innocence and insisted that the real story was the fact that she could not reveal all the pornographic emails that were discovered during the Sandusky investigation.

Judge Carpenter indicated as such the next day when he revealed the AG had not filed any petition for the emails.

The unsealed order contains the following passage:

This Court notes that, per the opinion of the Supervising Judge William R. Carpenter, the purpose of the protective order, entered per the authority of 18 Pa.C.S. § 4954, “was/is to prevent the intimidation, obstruction and/or retaliation, in the ordinary sense of those words . . . . [and] was never intended to prevent the [Office of Attorney General] from carrying out its constitutional duties.” Opinion, dated 12/12/2014, at 10-11 (filed at 171 MM 2014). Additionally, as explained by Judge Carpenter, the protective order “is not intended to restrict or impact ‘appropriate public [disclosure]’ of information connected with the possession and/or distribution of possibly pornographic images by members of the [Office of Attorney General].” Id. at 11.

These revelations could provide Kane with the cover to finally release the emails. Although, if they don’t live up to the hype and fail to take down her enemies, she would no longer have a political defense.

UPDATE: Kane’s lawyer Gerald Shargel released the following statement in response:

We are pleased with the Order issued today by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.  The Order permits the “appropriate public disclosure” of the “possibly pornographic images” that Attorney General Kane referenced in her recent public statement.  We expect that appropriate public disclosure will occur in connection with the vigorous defense of the criminal charges that have been laid against her.  These images and the emails to which they are attached are essential to demonstrating Attorney General Kane’s innocence, and the abject flaws in the District Attorney’s Affidavit of Probable Cause. 

As a result of the Supreme Court’s Order, we no longer consider it necessary to move for relief before Judge William R. Carpenter. 

It is our hope that the Supreme Court will soon rule that additional, related documents are also subject to appropriate public disclosure in connection with Attorney General Kane’s defense.

111 Responses

  1. David, what political services do you provide? I mean if some paid you and you showed up on their list of campaign expenses what are they getting for those dollars?

  2. David, Question for you have you now or have you ever ben paid for your comments posted here or sites like this? I’m here as a citizen concerned with the security of the commonwealth, why are you here?

  3. Jessica,

    So much as many of us figured. The porn emails are nothing more than a red herring. She doubled down during her press conference and the supreme court called her bluff.

    Also, what does she care if people are embarrassed by the porn emails? The protective order is clearly intended to protect those who testified from losing their jobs or being demoted.

    What’s funny is that this didn’t seem to bother her regarding Barker. Once again this woman is a LOON.

  4. Rsklaroff,

    I’m waiting for this press conference where she says she would answer every question presented to her by the press. This woman is terrible and she has no shame about her.

  5. David Diano says,
    “How many of you “insiders” would be in trouble (and risk of losing your jobs) if you were identified? How many are violating secrecy or confidentiality oaths?”

    Do you mean like Kane did?

  6. Come one David,

    Stomp them feet. How’s that binky taste? Keep crying and whining like a little baby.

    Like you’re girlfriend Kane you can’t argue the facts so you want to distract and now cry about who posts where or when or what their title may be.

    Keep watching television little boy. Keep looking for those wanted posters. Keep trying. Wah…wah…wah…

  7. Anyone know when AG-Kane will complete her datadump?

    Anyone able to explain why AG-Kane acted as if she was ignorant of the old (now public) order by the Supremes?

    Anyone able to predict the number of postings DD will have to walk – back (hundreds? thousands?) after the result is a dud?

  8. SpongeBob-Square-Janitor-

    You haven’t offered a single bit of “tech” info that you didn’t get from a Disney Spy-Kids plot.

    If I were Sherlock Holmes I’d be using the mustard stain on your tie to figure out that you are stealing office supplies.

    Comparing IP addresses to figure out who is multi-posting and really is “inside” as they claim is really a question of who has the balls to submit themselves to scrutiny. Any takers? No. Any fakers? A lot.

    I’m not claiming to be an insider on this case. My perspective is that of a voter who likes that Kane is going after child molesters and other criminals in PA, as she was elected to do. I don’t like the way the GOP is trying to overturn her election with these petty political bullsh*t charges, which, even if 100% true, don’t amount to squat.

    How many of you “insiders” would be in trouble (and risk of losing your jobs) if you were identified? How many are violating secrecy or confidentiality oaths?

    How do you know that the FBI hasn’t already contacted PoliticsPA and been collecting your IP addresses and handles all this time?

    Hmm… if they are investigating leaks, this would be a good place to start. Just saying…. could be too later for you to cut and run..

  9. You all sound like a bunch of whiny little babies. Kane is a liar and a scum-bag politician. Shouldn’t be AG. Fina is a POS pervert who probably misused the grand jury system and shouldn’t be a prosecutor. Case closed.

  10. David, seriously seek help. All I can tell you is clearly people here are in the know and you are not. You make challenges on here like you are trying to be Sherlock Holmes helping out your fellow D’s by outing the big bad commenters except we are just not that stupid. Cut bait with KK, she is not worth your time. Go find some other poor dem who is being wronged. The more you challenge me on tech the more you are going to get embarrassed. In the end does any of this matter? Kane lied. Pointing back to these emails with their questionable timelines does nothing for her but deflect. Even you have to be smart enough to know when to cut and run.

  11. kanesdriver

    How am I crying or stomping my feet. YOU are the one accusing people of multiple aliases. YOU claim to have lots of insider info. YOU claim to know Thomas.

    You certainly imply you have a government job/connection. You could avoid a gov IP address if you’re posting from your phone during business hours. Maybe you are the janitor and don’t have your own computer and pick up your gossip from the men’s room while cleaning toilets.
    Nothing you’ve said/claimed is beyond the skills/knowledge of a gossipy janitor.

    But, my point remains: you are the one making accusations, but you cry foul when asked to verify you aren’t multiple aliases or work in government.

    Pot meet kettle.

    Tell us this then, what is your degree/profession?
    (Sanitation engineering, perhaps)?

  12. DD — come on, man. This is just sad now. I have nothing against you. But this? Come on. Don’t be a baby. Do you have a wife? She’s embarrassed. A son? Hrs mortified.

  13. Oh David,
    Grow up. I’m not giving you my name. However, I am not posting from a government account. You are a typical liberal cry baby. Just like your girlfriend Kathleen. You won’t get what you want so you go and stomp your feet and throw a temper tantrum.

    It’s so apparent that you are a immature little boy that doesn’t have one lick of life experience except what you read on the internet. Go away baby. Or better yet go be an internet tough guy somewhere else.

    Wah…wah…wah…

  14. kanesdriver

    Does this mean that you are going to accept the challenge? You certainly are one of the accusers.

    Put your money where your mouth is.

    I’m especially interested in whether you are posting from government IP address during work hours.

    Put up or shut up.

  15. DD,

    In the words of Platinum you’re becoming unhinged. The only poster that this would “out” is Platinum. It’s time to put you head down and make sure that the printers have enough paper in the lab.

  16. Nick and PoliticsPA Admins-

    There are some accusations floating about that posters here are using multiple aliases.

    This should be easy to determine by comparing the IP addresses used for their postings.

    I’m curious which, if any (many), of the IP addresses correspond to people in Montco DA or courts, wherever the f*ck Fina’s office is, the OAG, etc.

    However, I’m NOT asking PoliticsPA to out the IP addresses and locations.

    I’m just asking that they resolve the question of which posters have the same IP addresses. This means they are either the same people or work in the same office with a single gateway.
    The cookie tracking might also help identify those with multiple aliases.

    To help this along, who here is willing to have PoliticsPA resolve whether or not they posting under multiple aliases?

    I post as myself, no other aliases. PoliticsPA is free to confirm or challenge my assertion.

    I’m throwing down the gauntlet to all you anonymous p*ssies to put up or shut up:

    1) give PoliticsPA authorization to confirm/debunk that you are posting under single alias

    2) give PoliticsPA authorization to confirm if you are posting from a government IP address

  17. DD,

    And you wouldn’t know a criminal investigation if it wasn’t a rerun of a Law and Order episode. Oh, I forgot…go and google Wiretaps and the Patriot Act and explain how it pertains to Pennsylvania Crimes Code?

    You better hurry…the printer needs more ink in the lab. Again.

  18. SpongeBob-

    Lots of talk, but no real IT cred to back it up. Your spy fantasies/delusions about fake data might pass muster on the Disney channel where no one bats an eye when a kid takes over a satellite with a few keystrokes. However, in the real world of office workers who barely know how to cut/paste or use Excel to sum columns, none of these f*ckers knows how to cover their tracks nor make up fake tracks to frame someone else.

    I’m looking forward to the list of who sent porn/racist emails to whom, and how often.

    KanesDriver-

    Spongebob doesn’t know a USB slot from his @sshole.

  19. JM,
    You asked when the cook may go. I don’t know but I can promise you that his hands are all over the e-vault chaos.

  20. Spongebob,

    You can’t argue with these guys.Diano said it best. His expertise in criminal investigations cone from watching police procedurals on television. He’s a clown.

    Platinum or whatever he calls himself has clearly shown himself as someone that Fina has prosecuted or is the relative of someone Fina has prosecuted. He’s been banned from Philly.com for a reason.

    As for the preliminary hearing. Adrian King won’t testify. My guess is that with the new case law the Montgomery County detective will put in everything under direct that needs placed into the record.

    Or the better bet is that Kane will waive her hearing. She doesn’t want the details brought out in the public especially in light of the fact that the case won’t be tossed at that time.

    It’s over Johnny. The question will be who else is going.

  21. oh and HAHAHA, I could give a crap about Fina. You don’t have to believe me but I seriously could care less. It’s that KK came in and ruined what was a proud office of hard working people who took pride in protecting the people of the commonwealth. Were there some bastards in there. you bet. like any place you have those who are just the typical state workers but the side people often do not see was the hard working contingent who went home every day knowing they had done there job and had done it well and that citizens of PA got some value for their tax dollars. The volumes of hard working and dedicated people who have run for the doors because of the paranoid and often times idiotic leadership is what drives those who you accuse of being Fina pervs. Now I am sure you will come back with some comment about how we are all grabbing each others puds but the sad truth stares you in the face. KK, and her class of clowns like DP deserve everything they get…

  22. David, Like others I am done arguing with you when you just don’t know everything you think you do. You remind me of another Dave, but even you are not that dumb….

  23. DD,

    How do I know? “I just do.”

    We have to not only doubt Sponge Bob SquareShill, but we have to assume he is aligned with the perverts … because he clearly is.

    Most of the posters here are Fina shills pulling each others’ puds.

    Pathetic.

  24. SpongeBob-

    Computer forensics would reveal that the type of falsification you are promoting as faked.

    The people that didn’t resign were reprimanded.

    There’s been no claims of falsified data, and once Fina’s emails are exposed, he’s not going to be able to make that claim either.

    BTW, how much is rent in your fantasy world?

  25. David,
    It’s simple. If you are an IT resource you can look up the validity of what I am saying and find it to be true. As for the people who resigned. Again I am not saying people did not send emails or participate but they make rules for a reason and everyone needs to play by them. There are as many who did not resign as did and then some. Did I see the emails….of course not that would mean I work there in IT or somehow have secret access to info…or do I. The AG’s office has zero tools in place to prevent the dissemination of information from any number of means. There fore trust me plenty of people have had a look at the good, hence confidence is higher than you likely think.

    Lastly you continue to be wrong but yet you want to be right. As someone in computer forensics which you must not know much about if you can take a drive and do what I said. When you are done come back and post how you were wrong and at least on this point I am right.

  26. Not really a “problem”. She can’t be sued and has immunity for the statements she made regarding the case (which match why the FBI dropped the case).

  27. More problems for AG-Kane…elsewhere on this site:

    “Court Rules Against Kane in Thomas Lawsuit”

  28. SpongeBob-

    1) Have YOU seen all the emails in question? Do you work for the OAG’s office or for the courts?

    Your explanations of fake drives and such (you watch too much Alias and spy shows) don’t explain the resignation of the people already caught up in this scandal. Why would they just resign, rather than say: Hey, that’s not my email.

    2) My point, which you missed, is that you couldn’t produce a hard drive out of thin air that could be plugged into my computer and just work on it without warning messages or failing to load.
    Also, any hard drive you produced wouldn’t have any login history to my banks, credit cards, library, medical, etc. nor have the print drivers set up to match my printers.

    3) “How do I know? I just do.” Gee, with an explanation like that, how could I have doubted you.

  29. Diano: You are indeed correct. The embattled Attorney General’s objective is to cast doubt upon the (nonsensical) notion that her aim was to retaliate against Mr. Fina. That was not the AG’s true aim when she disclosed information to The Inquirer. Her aim was to retaliate against the party truly responsible for the disclosure of sting operation details to the press: federal law enforcement authorities. Kane’s principal battle has been, and continues to be, with federal law enforcement authorities, not Mr. Fina.

    Of course, none of this absolves the AG of culpability; if she indeed committed perjury and other offenses, she must be held accountable.

  30. How do I know? I just do. How did others on here know the FBI was going to be calling soon. But sure let me draw you a map of exactly how I know. I mean nothing bad could happen right. Oh wait then all of a sudden KK would be on TV blaming Old SpongeBob and the rest of the Krusty Krab as being at fault for this conspiracy for her to perjure herself amongst other things. Sorry HAHAHAHA I just do is my answer. What you have never heard is a Kane shill on here denying anything I have said yet. Kane can be like Clinton if she wants and produce the servers but they won’t help her because just like Clinton, now there’s nothing left.

  31. David, you are wrong about the role of motive. They teach you this on the very first day of criminal law in law school. You need only a “mens rea” (the intent, in this case the intent to leak documents and to tell a falsehood under oath) and an “actus reus” (the act, in this case to transmit the documents and to say the words that are false).

    Your motive could range from boredom to financial gain to appeasing the voices in your head. It doesn’t matter if you had the specific intent to do something and you did it.

  32. SpongeBob SquareShill — I have a quick easy question for you:

    How do YOU know what methods the Attorney General’s Office used to collect the porn emails?

    Please do not confuse my question as one involving any IT issues. You have typed enough about that (my eyes are bleeding). Just try to answer the question. Thank you.

  33. David,
    Man I had hoped for more.
    Strike 1: The emails in question are not being shown from both sides. In fact in most instances there is no references to where it came from folder wise. You are making assumptions that they are producing both sides. Take a look at what was already released and then get back to me with the yeah, ok you were right there.

    Strike 2: You clearly have not analyzed hard drive data before. I could take your hard drive and put anything I want on it and put it back and you would be none the wiser. I can also hold a hard drive up in the air and say this is yours (which is what KK is doing). And that’s the freaking point you 2 bit hack. She is not saying see look this stuff I got from a hard drive that I say is Frank Fina’s or one of the others she thinks is involved. But all that being said again you think I can’t image a drive with all kinds of crap on it and say its yours? Are you out of your mind. High school kids can do that. You don’t think Microsoft has tools that allow an IT admin to reactivate Windows when a drive is moved? Really? I actually was giving you credit when I said you were coming at me part time in a previous post. You aren’t even unpaid intern worthy yet.

    Strike 3:

    Most of your comments are based on assumptions or at least you act as such. Man do some research before you start “dropping knowledge” on others. Don’t worry with hard work and dedication you too can be one of the best help desk guys at your company that no one in the real world of IT has ever heard of.

  34. This preliminary hearing is going to be a SHOW.

    Over/under 20 minutes before Shargel draws blood on his cross of King.

  35. Multi-Tasker-

    Motive, method and opportunity were always the cornerstone of any crime story I’ve ever heard.

    Motive does go to intent. If I kill someone with my vehicle, “motive” means the difference between 1st degree/premeditation and accident.

    The “story/narrative” painted by the DA does seem to revolve around motive as the driving force and as “filler” for all the leaps of logic to connect the dots.

  36. David, I think that’s probably accurate, as her attorney made some comment to that effect. But it doesn’t matter what her motive was if she did the illegal act. Motive is never an element of the crime; it just helps to tell a better story.

  37. Multi-Tasker General-

    It’s not completely clear what Kane’s strategy is, but it may be that she’s going after the claimed “motivation” of the case being to go after Fina.

    If she was planning on releasing all the porn emails, then Fina would have been clobbered as part of the whole sweep. Therefore, she would have no motivation to single him out separately.

    That’s just my guess.

  38. SpongeBob-

    No.

    The people involved here are not members of the CIA/NSA the IMF team.

    You can’t do any of the things you are saying, either.

    There are people smarter than me, but you clearly aren’t one of them.

    If you try to plug a Windows hard drive into a computer that it is not from, it will complain that you are violating the license agreement with an illegal copy. Even if you match the hardware specs (same model), it will still pop up messages about detecting new hardware and installing drivers for the network card (which has a different MAC address), and even the mouse.

    When you find an email in someone’s “sent” box and the same email in the inbox of the recipient, it’s pretty much over.

  39. Pat Unger, (1) Will Kane now give that press conference and answer questions as she promised?; and (2) Do you actually believe that any of this porn email nonsense is going to make one bit of difference for the criminal charges against Kane?

  40. David, I don’t think you are getting it here. I can make anything look like anything on anyone’s hard drive. I can make your sent folder look like its been through a pretty great adventure on Ashley Madison for example. What you are failing to see or more likely shielding yourself from seeing is that when some magically produces a hard drive and says hey this belonged to David you can either argue it is or is not yours. There is a procedure and process to such things and also a source when it comes to producing enterprise email. See you seem to fancy yourself an IT whiz except the one thing you should always know is there is always someone smarter out there than you. Especially when they actually know real details. Those of us who are really good. I mean really freaking good who have testified as experts in local, state and federal court….yeah we might know a thing or two. Sure hard drives have history and cache but fruit of a poisonous tree man. Post your address here and in a few days I can have a hard drive on your doorstep that will seems so real the only thing missing will be the George lucas special effects. So to be clear point me towards where they actually pulled emails from sent folders for the people they are clamoring for here, show the proper procedure for pulling a drive and establishing chain of custody, show where the emails matched server logs or were pulled from a server, or just stop talking. You may be a decent IT guy for wherever you work but you are out of your league son. In this area you are out of shape. It’s a full time job for you to match IT skills with me and right now you are showing a part time mentality…

  41. David,

    The Fina crowd is getting restless. Whining about forensics and “hard” drives and servers. It’s pathetic.

    They know the end is near. Bye, bye Frankie. Seth Williams isn’t going to have time for Fina and his pervert games.

    The media has given Fina a pass thus far. Pretty soon, they will be unable to do so. Women’s’ groups and enraged PA residents will soon be very angry. It’s not just that he is a pervert either. It’s the utter disdain he appears to have for women. It has been reported that the emails included videos showing graphic violence against females.

    And – before they mention “sis,” I will say this right now – If she watched that stuff at work and sent it around to other government officials to watch at work – then she should go down too.

  42. Spongebob-

    1) we aren’t talking about unread emails in a spam folder, but rather emails in the “sent” folder

    2) hard drives would have browser history and cache of images

    3) I’m surprised you can spell IT

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