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Kane Chooses Special Prosecutor to Investigate Email Chains

Kane-Constitution CenterThe former Attorney General of Maryland, Doug Gansler, stood at a podium in the auditorium of the National Constitution Center, and answered the questions reporters had intended for PA’s embattled AG Kathleen Kane.

It was that kind of day.

The event began with Kane’s spokesman Chuck Ardo introducing a number of the offensive emails which were displayed on the background wall of the theater. A representative from Philly NOW then spoke in support of Kane’s action, although the young woman declined to address any questions at that time. At least she said reporters could contact her later.

Just a few moments after that, Kane took the stage to a splattering of applause.

Denouncing the “thousands” of email messages, Kane introduced Gansler as the Special Prosecutor in charge of the event.

Like during her previous statement to the press, reporters in the audience interrupted the Attorney General to ask questions only to be ignored.

Shortly thereafter, Kane turned to critics of the investigation.

“To the few who challenge it [her authority to appoint a Special Prosecutor], including some members of my own staff, I pose a simple three-pronged question,” Kane stated. “1. Are you a white male? 2. Are you or one of your buddies in this email network? 3. Are you trying to get my job without the benefit of having to run for it and being chosen by the people of Pennsylvania.”

She then advocated for minorities who may have been made fun of by the attorneys and judges who are supposed to protect them and made the same point about women.

“No women should go to work and be subject to consistent treatment of disgusting indignity by women-haters,” she said. “Because they were born with one less body part, which the last I heard does not contain any extra brain cells.”

Kane soon left without taking any questions.

Gansler spent the majority of his time defending his authority despite the suspension of Kane’s law license and stated that his intention is to complete the investigation for less than the $2 million that was spent on the Moulton Report.   

131 Responses

  1. Damn … I forgot I was “Doglover2015” rather than “Dog lover 2015”

    It’s really hard being a troll who is trying to have a conversation with himself!!!

  2. Terry M. Curious to get a non lawyers view on this since their appears to be many expectations regarding; authority, crimes, search warrant capability; arrest. There is so many differing beliefs from; police, prosecutors and defense attorneys even judges.

  3. Fina’s lawyer is Ali’s lawyer. So – you are saying that Ali’s lawyer would get a subpoena quashed?

    LOL … Seems the perverts are worried about their private e-mail accounts.

    Wonder why …. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  4. Glad to see somebody below asked about the ethics and competency of Cynthia Baldwin, who lacks both. Not a surprise that she was once on Family Division in Allegheny County until they got rid of her by Rendell kicking her upstairs to sit on the infamous PA Supreme Court.

  5. Doglover, did you just ask HaHaHa a legal question? Now that’s funny.

    Eakin’s and Fina’s lawyers would quash that subpoena in their sleep. Two non-lawyers trying to peer into their private email accounts? LOL.

  6. HaHa just curious as to your thoughts on this. Kane said last week she hoped the investigation would lead to the private emails Fina, Eakin etc. With all this talk of jurisdiction do you think they would ever be able to subpoena the private accounts? It would seem to me their would be a wealth of information especially after much of this was made public.

  7. Gotta agree with the Daily News Author on this:

    [T]he potential upside to Kane’s appointment of an independent prosecutor is that someone from outside this ass-backwards state finally might get to the rotten core of our criminal-justice system.

    Previous attempts have failed. Miserably.

    Last year, for instance, the Supreme Court hired special counsel Robert Byer, who found that offensive emails sent and received by state Supreme Court Justice J. Michael Eakin were largely “unremarkable.”

    The state’s Judicial Conduct Board also cleared Eakin of wrongdoing.

    “The board appreciated your cooperation with its investigation,” the board’s chief counsel, Robert Graci, wrote to Eakin on Dec. 17.

    But the Daily News reported last month that Graci is a friend of Eakin’s, and helped Eakin get re-elected when he was up for retention in 2011.

    Oh.

    Graci, who failed to disclose that conflict, stepped down from the latest Eakin email investigation after the story was published.

    Then, the Inquirer reported that Judicial Conduct Board member Eugene Dooley had received sexually explicit emails from former Supreme Court Justice Seamus McCaffery. That conflict was not disclosed, either.

    And Judicial Conduct Board Chairwoman Jayne Duncan has been represented by attorney Heidi Eakin, the wife of Justice Eakin – who also is representing him in the current email investigation. Duncan reportedly has recused herself from the Eakin case, although she won’t say when that happened.

    The Supreme Court’s second special counsel, Joseph Del Sole, issued a report Oct. 30 calling the Eakin emails “offensive, tasteless, insensitive, juvenile and repugnant to reasonable sensibilities.”

    Del Sole referred the matter to . . . wait for it . . . the Judicial Conduct Board.

    The board, by the way, operates under a veil of secrecy. Which works great for the mob, but maybe not so much for the taxpayers of Pennsylvania (see above).

    So, an independent prosecutor from Maryland? Could be a good thing.

    For the Citizens of Pennsylvania – it is a VERY GOOD THING … unless you are one of the racists, perverts, or woman-haters.

  8. Hey mental patient — “early this year” already happened. GET A CLUE … and then go have another bowl of Jello.

  9. @ Pat Unger:

    You’re incorrect in two ways.

    Your assertion [“Seems to me that the only way she would run again is if they do take her to trial and she prevails.”] won’t fit into time-constraints; elections are early this year and nominating-petitions will be circulated in February.

    I’ll ignore irrelevancies, but I’ll continue to skewer you and d2…for the negative-feedback is richly deserved.

  10. Best news ever!!! Yes … Better than the news that Fina and his pervert buddies are going to jail.

    The mental patient (below) just promised to be SILENT!!! Whooo Hoooooooooo !!!!!

    Though I will miss his “hyper-links” … LOL …

  11. David – Here’s why I think Kane will, in fact, finish her term:

    #1 – the people of PA have woken up to what the Senate was trying to do (an end-around on the Constitution). A Poll here has an “overwhelming majority” of responders saying they disapproved of the Senate’s actions.

    #2 – the people of PA have woken up to why Fina & The Corbett Pervs have been on the Kane war-path. They are sleazy, corrupt ayyy-holes looking to avoid responsibility for their own criminal behavior.

    #3 – the Clown Car is afraid of a trial. They know the truth will come out and they do not want the truth out.

    What has now become their best hope for “getting rid” of Kane is to sit and wait. She has said she does not intend on running again. Seems to me that the only way she would run again is if they do take her to trial and she prevails. So they will wait.

    And, when she is out of Office, Kevin Steele will come to his senses and do the right thing with that trumped-up case sitting on his desk compliments of his Repervlican predecessor.

  12. To again explain why all the tangential citations raised by AG-Kane’s defenders aren’t honored with a response, note Guzzardi’s comment [“I don’t think refocusing the subject on pornmails will save her from jail.”] and a concept that just arrived [in another context] from Stu Bukofsky: “My silence could mean that you’re not worth the argument.”

  13. Regarding JoePa, I share the sentiments of the “TRUE” Marie and have consistently raised concern that Ms. Cynthia Baldwin is inappropriately “skating” despite her problematic professional behavior.

    SHE should have ensured the deponents knew of her loyalties, and SHE should have ensured the Board knew what had been occurring.

    As usual, d2 plays games by claiming everyone is politically-inspired with regard to his darling AG-Kane; he is countermanded by the fact that the forces attacking her are bipartisan.

  14. Let me guess. The Repervlicans and the mental patient have no comment on any of this (from today’s paper):

    1) Sheilah Novasky met Frank Fina for the first time while she was waiting to testify before a grand jury in the state’s case against DeWeese. She said she sat in a small room with seven men – including Fina.

    Fina repeatedly asked bout two things: How many women on DeWeese’s staff were sleeping with Manzo? And did she know about Frameli’s “breast enhancements”?
    Novasky then went before the grand jury. Fina asked her nothing about breasts or Manzo’s sexual relationships.

    “I think it was for their own amusement,” Novasky said. “There is a line between intimidation and interrogation and they crossed the lines whenever they concentrated on the sexual antics, which had nothing to do with [the case] …”

    “Fina was saying that we were exchanging political emails on state time and that it was illegal,” said Melissa Frameli. “It’s pretty sick that they were doing the same thing that they were screaming at us for – and our emails were related to political work, they weren’t degrading toward women or towards men, they weren’t pornographic in nature.”

    2) Frameli recalled that Fina was fixated on her personal relationship with DeWeese’s chief of staff, Michael Manzo, and whether she had spent her bonus money on a “boob job.” He accused her of “whoring around,” unleashing a string of profanity and “F-bombs,” she said. …

    “He was completely putting me down and saying I was going to get in trouble for sleeping with my boss. Screaming at me, and saying that I used my bonus to get a boob job and that I was a disgrace, basically . . . I felt very degraded by him. I felt very degraded as a woman.”

    Fina, now a city prosecutor for District Attorney Seth Williams, declined to comment yesterday. Williams’ spokesman, Cameron Kline, said Fina is not “taking any questions from the media.”

  15. Marie – the same pathetic troll who “borrows” my screen-name is now using yours. Write to the moderators (by clicking on “CONTACT” below). They will remove all the posts that come from his IP address. Wait til you see how many disappear – and from how many different screen-names.

  16. Terry M-

    99% of the turmoil is the result of this malicious prosecution and the GOP (and a few turncoat Dems) salivating at the prospect of a political shift in their favor.

    Kane should finish her term.

  17. Diano, what about the legislators supporting her? Aren’t they political too? But seriously, only a crazy person would think it is appropriate for Kane to continue in office.

  18. Aw what do I know? Maybe the Joe Paterno statue should be melted down to make leg irons for Kathleen Kane. Paterno was, after all, the guy who protected his own legacy at the expense of children being molested by Sandusky.

  19. rskaroff-

    “The overall goal of non-political actors is to preclude her from continuing to impede the delivery of justice to the citizenry”

    That sounds great, except for one minor, teensy-weensy flaw in your logic: ALL the actors against her are political.

  20. I don’t know who the other Marie is, but please don’t get me confused with him or her. Joe Paterno did nothing wrong. He followed the chain of command. Why aren’t you people focusing on the Second Mile? The charity that Sandusky ran with all the Republicans in Centre County. Why does Penn State get the bad name? Why pick on Joe Paterno? You all can say what you want, but I want to go on record as defending Joe Paterno, not degrading his legacy.

  21. Guzzardi’s astute observation [“I don’t think refocusing the subject on pornmails will save her from jail.] comports with my prior postings and isn’t obviated by the predictable [mindreading] response of d2 [“The GOP goal is to remove her from office, not send her to jail.”].

    The overall goal of non-political actors is to preclude her from continuing to impede the delivery of justice to the citizenry; focus upon the commonweal animates the Senate and explicitly addresses her competency to lead the AG-Office without an active law-license.

    As was noted on other PoliticsPa pages, the title of one of the hyperlinked articles [“The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly”] characterizes her descent from golden-girl to walking-tragedy; the sooner she rids PA of her presence, the sooner everyone [including the governor] will be able to breathe easily.

  22. DD – Part of the plan for overturning the election was the trumped-up charges.

    Just look who is behind the BS leak case — Perverts, liars, racists, and pricks:

    Repervlican Castille authorized the “investigation”

    A Repervlican Judge (who thinks people are following him) appointed a Repervlican Special Prosecutor.

    And then a Repervlican DA in a small county brought charges.

  23. And then there is what this poor woman had to suffer through:

    Sheilah Novasky met Frank Fina for the first time while she was waiting to testify before a grand jury in the state’s case against DeWeese. She said she sat in a small room with seven men – including Fina.

    Fina repeatedly asked bout two things: How many women on DeWeese’s staff were sleeping with Manzo? And did she know about Frameli’s “breast enhancements”?

    Novasky then went before the grand jury. Fina asked her nothing about breasts or Manzo’s sexual relationships.

    “I think it was for their own amusement,” Novasky said. “There is a line between intimidation and interrogation and they crossed the lines whenever they concentrated on the sexual antics, which had nothing to do with [the case] …”

    What’s good for the goose, is good for the perverts. To jail with you, creeps. You will not be missed.

  24. Personally, I’m okay with spending over $2 million for an unlicensed “prosecutor” to investigate emails that could not result in criminal charges so long as it provides Kathleen Kane with more irrelevant distraction to offer at her criminal trial. Of course the taxpayers should pay for that! It’s just like the Moulton investigation, except more expensive and more personally motivated by Kane.

  25. Doglover – you know what really grinds my gears? When people claim “Freedom of Speech” to defend themselves yet clearly have no idea what it means. Freedom of Speech protects citizens from unwarranted censorship by the government, not privately owned and moderated news sites. Also, your defense is essentially, well, it’s not illegal to say it.

  26. My pleasure.

    I take it this is the section of the article you were talking about::

    “Fina was saying that we were exchanging political emails on state time and that it was illegal,” said Melissa Frameli. “It’s pretty sick that they were doing the same thing that they were screaming at us for – and our emails were related to political work, they weren’t degrading toward women or towards men, they weren’t pornographic in nature.”

    Frameli recalled that Fina was fixated on her personal relationship with DeWeese’s chief of staff, Michael Manzo, and whether she had spent her bonus money on a “boob job.” He accused her of “whoring around,” unleashing a string of profanity and “F-bombs,” she said. …

    “He was completely putting me down and saying I was going to get in trouble for sleeping with my boss. Screaming at me, and saying that I used my bonus to get a boob job and that I was a disgrace, basically . . . I felt very degraded by him. I felt very degraded as a woman.”

    Fina, now a city prosecutor for District Attorney Seth Williams, declined to comment yesterday. Williams’ spokesman, Cameron Kline, said Fina is not “taking any questions from the media.”

    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20151202_Ex-Pa__House_leader__Prosecutors_linked_to_porn_emails_are_hypocrites.html#GKv330pFF1kJJeJI.99

  27. Speaking of Seth Williams continuing to employ these “cretans” — see poll results below:

    *** Should Seth Williams Fire Frank Fina? ***

    Yes (77%)
    No (23%)

    And the 23% are Fina’s family and friends (if he has any left), loons who just hate Kane (in a Hillary sort of way) and the perverts and racists on the e-mail chains.

  28. Thanks Mr. Ha.

    I just signed the NOW petition and I never do things like that. This is a huge ssue to me as a woman. I would not let my daughter in a room alone with these men. How can they be prosecutors and judges? I just read the article and the accounts of the women that Fina and his male colleagues harassed. They really should be ashamed of themselves. Maybe they will be when they go in front of the judge to be sentenced. Hard to believe that Seth Williams continues to employ these people (cretans).

  29. O3 – Did you see this one:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151202_Clout_Extra__The_Good__The_Bad___The_Ugly_of_Porngate_presser.html

    Good stuff from a former federal prosecutor in the other article:

    He said he believes that a case could be made against Fina and others at the center of “Porngate” (now called “Hategate) for theft of services, regardless of any financial gain or advantage.

    “There is a loss and who is the loss – the citizens – they are having their money spent for people sending dirty pictures to each other,” said the former prosecutor, now with a Center City law firm. “Sending a bunch of emails in a pattern over a period of time, it’s possible that a good [outside] prosecutor would look very hard at that.”

  30. HaHaHa, when you stop having a conversation with yourself (Pat Unger), please identify what criminal law was broken. Thanks!

  31. Not sure, Pat. Maybe they will have to put him in Solitary Confinement for his own safety. Agreed that they better take his guns away. He is in denial now. But, once he realizes where he is headed, he whole world is going to crash in on him. Serves him right, though. How dare he send people to prison for doing things that pale in comparison to what he was doing. I wonder if/when his partners in crime are going to flip and start talking to the Independent Prosecutor …

  32. What State Prison do you think they will send Fina to? With him being a racist and all – it is going to be dangerous for him behind bars.

    I hope he doesn’t go all Bud Dwyer on us …

  33. H3/PU: Orange jumpsuits? Does that mean you can point to a criminal statute that they violated? I asked you yesterday and you couldn’t point to any criminal law that would send them to prison. Surely after sleeping on it you found one.

  34. That’s where they are gonna get them, Pam. The material – which may have been obscene under the law – was transmitted using taxpayer resources on taxpayers’ time. That’s criminal. These creeps prosecuted people for similar conduct. They knew better – but they did it anyway. That’s because they thought they were above the law. And if Corbett had his way, they would have never been caught. Corbett and Ryan unsuccessfully tried to delete 20,000,000 e-mails before Kane got hold of them.

    Can’t wait to see them in their orange jump-suits. They better start getting their affairs in order.

  35. Really all I care about is the Pedo State “University” and its ability to harbor child molesters. FREE SANDUSKY! LONG LIVE PEDOTERNO!

  36. The news gets worse and worse for Fina and Williams every day. Bet Williams rues the day he got into bed with these cowardly pricks. He had a promising career ahead of him.

    Fina talking about “tit-jobs” to a female witness in front of a room full of male agents and male prosecutors is an abomination. He has serious problems. I feel bad for his wife and hope he doesn’t have daughters.

    This investigation is long over-due. But anyone faulting Kane for the delay hasn’t been keeping up. Until recently, Fina and his pals had court orders in place to protect them. But – no one is going to protect them now – except for the others that stand to go to jail with them.

  37. These men are despicable. They are Judges and prosecutors and State officials. To think they were making fun of domestic violence victims is nauseating. An e-mail that states that a young, unconscious woman is something to be thankful for is just utterly disgusting. Their e-mails included these —

    “Irish Sunglasses,” read the caption on a photo of a woman with a horrendous black eye. “Free pair when you forget dinner.”

    “Thank you, Mr. Daniels. Thank you, Mr. Guinness. Muchos Gracias, Senor Tequila,” read the caption on a photo of what appeared to be an unconscious young woman.

    This needs to be addressed. No way the taxpayers time and computers should have been spent this way. These men need to be prosecuted and thrown in jail.

  38. So HaHaHa continues to spout the nonsense that Sandusky had additional victims during the OAG investigation. Kane’s own Moulton report concluded that this was not true. No one has been able to point to a single victim during the time of the investigation. And as for reading a crime victim’s story, that hardly sheds any light on what it takes to build a case against a predator. Ask any experienced prosecutor (i.e., not Kane) and they will tell you that it IS hard on victims because building a case like that takes a very long time.

    But there were no victims after the investigation began. If there were, Kane would be all over that, telling anybody who will listen. Instead, she tried to make that claim but then had to retract it the next day. So it seems that HaHaHa/Pat Unger is a bigger fool than Kathleen Kane.

  39. Ha Ha with regards to Fina needing help I know you are right. I believe the attorneys name was Joe MCGettigan. He once worked the the AG’s Office as the Dir of Criminal Law and later was first Assistant in the Philadelphia DA’s Office although I don’t know who the DA was then.

  40. I beg to differ. Read Aaron Fisher’s book. He was a Sandusky victim.

    Also – the Moulton report found “inexplicable delays” in the Corbett/Fina investigation. Those inexplicable delays allowed Sandusky remain a free man for WAY TOO LONG. It allowed him to continue to rape children. One conviction on one count would have meant the equivalent of a life sentence for Sandusky. He dragged his feet – either because he was afraid to lose … or for some other godforsaken reason. 32 months is unacceptable.

    And – when it was time to go to trial on Sandusky, Fina needed help. He had to bring someone in. No one wants that conviction overturned. But – I can almost guarantee that there will be bad stuff in Fina’s e-mails … and I am not just talking about perverted porn, racism and misogynistic material.

    Time will tell. We can agree to disagree for now.

  41. Seems like most in the media are seeing through the sham waste of time her announcement today was. She is just continuing to make herself look like a joke.

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